Summer Transfers

Here is something that is bothering me from quite a few seasons. As a football club we have moved up quite a lot from 2008 but our transfers have been iffy from quite some time now where we are unable to unearth a diamond despite having an extensive scout system. I am talking about a 5 to 15 million player- We had Kompany and Zabaleta to boost of from previous years.
A player like Kante,Alphonso Davies Robertson Mahrez kind. Jesus and Sane can be counted as one of those but they were also some 30 mil kind of purchase. Even Academy kids sans Foden were disappointment .Expecting Braff to bring about that change after the Sancho saga. Is it how we set up as a team or our managers our our scouting departments or just sheer bad luck ?
 
Abhinav Pandey said:
Here is something that is bothering me from quite a few seasons. As a football club we have moved up quite a lot from 2008 but our transfers have been iffy from quite some time now where we are unable to unearth a diamond despite having an extensive scout system. I am talking about a 5 to 15 million player- We had Kompany and Zabaleta to boost of from previous years.
A player like Kante,Alphonso Davies Robertson Mahrez kind. Jesus and Sane can be counted as one of those but they were also some 30 mil kind of purchase. Even Academy kids sans Foden were disappointment .Expecting Braff to bring about that change after the Sancho saga. Is it how we set up as a team or our managers our our scouting departments or just sheer bad luck ?
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I mean it's not entirely true, City are incredibly good at finding gems, the academy is full of untapped potential, but City also need players who can come right into the first team and have the level not drop at all. Mahrez/Kante when they first joined Leicester probably weren't there. Alphonso has only really broken out this year as a result of Bayern, not sure when he was in the MLS he'd have been much more than a pacy winger.

Jesus, Bernardo and Sane are gems who were first team level from the off. Don't really get your comments on Foden and Braaf. Foden is a quality player who's adapted and is now at first team level, Braaf looks full of potential but hasn't even gone on a pre season yet, he's only trained with the first team
 
OliMCFC said:
I mean it's not entirely true, City are incredibly good at finding gems, the academy is full of untapped potential, but City also need players who can come right into the first team and have the level not drop at all. Mahrez/Kante when they first joined Leicester probably weren't there. Alphonso has only really broken out this year as a result of Bayern, not sure when he was in the MLS he'd have been much more than a pacy winger.

Jesus, Bernardo and Sane are gems who were first team level from the off. Don't really get your comments on Foden and Braaf. Foden is a quality player who's adapted and is now at first team level, Braaf looks full of potential but hasn't even gone on a pre season yet, he's only trained with the first team
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The foden comment was to say that he is the only player who is absolute quality that we got on a cheap(Academy and a true blue). Why can't be more players like that. Hence i want braff to succeed in our team and not go the Sancho way/
Talking about Jesus and Bernardo or Sane, all three of them were doing great before we came to the picture. Sane tore Real Madrid a new one in UCL,
B.Silva ran rings around our team in UCL and won the league with Monaco. My comment was more focussed on players like Maddison moving from Norwich to Leicester or Robertson from Hull to Liverpool. Hence the Alponso davies example where he moved from an unknown to an absolute best.

But more importantly i meant the defence. We have spent some fortune on our defence but it still crumbles on a little pressure. I just hope we could make a solid backline without spending some 300 millions.
Also to avoid the confusion i have already stated my definition of bargain is the range 5-15 million player transfer price if such a situation still remains in the hyper inflated market of football
 
Abhinav Pandey said:
The foden comment was to say that he is the only player who is absolute quality that we got on a cheap(Academy and a true blue). Why can't be more players like that. Hence i want braff to succeed in our team and not go the Sancho way/
Talking about Jesus and Bernardo or Sane, all three of them were doing great before we came to the picture. Sane tore Real Madrid a new one in UCL,
B.Silva ran rings around our team in UCL and won the league with Monaco. My comment was more focussed on players like Maddison moving from Norwich to Leicester or Robertson from Hull to Liverpool. Hence the Alponso davies example where he moved from an unknown to an absolute best.

But more importantly i meant the defence. We have spent some fortune on our defence but it still crumbles on a little pressure. I just hope we could make a solid backline without spending some 300 millions.
Also to avoid the confusion i have already stated my definition of bargain is the range 5-15 million player transfer price if such a situation still remains in the hyper inflated market of football
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There's loads of great youngsters in the academy... Braaf, Morgan Rogers,Liam Delap, Cole Palmer. Lots of potential there.
And Yeah they might have been known but they're still gems we secured for a good price. I see your point but as I said were those players better than what we had at the time? Robertson. Mendy was definitely considered miles better that summer in 2017 and it wasn't until 18/19 when Robertson properly emerged. Maddison. Better than Silva, KDB, Bernardo, Foden, Gundo in 2018? No.

And on the defence, I agree, hopefully we can find some good deals but we have to consider are they good enough for the first time when they're signing for other teams. I'm not sure theres that many defenders under 15m who are improvements on what we have.
 
OliMCFC said:
There's loads of great youngsters in the academy... Braaf, Morgan Rogers,Liam Delap, Cole Palmer. Lots of potential there.
And Yeah they might have been known but they're still gems we secured for a good price. I see your point but as I said were those players better than what we had at the time? Robertson. Mendy was definitely considered miles better that summer in 2017 and it wasn't until 18/19 when Robertson properly emerged. Maddison. Better than Silva, KDB, Bernardo, Foden, Gundo in 2018? No.

And on the defence, I agree, hopefully we can find some good deals but we have to consider are they good enough for the first time when they're signing for other teams. I'm not sure theres that many defenders under 15m who are improvements on what we have.
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i get where you are coming from and ofcourse we paid a really good price for B. Silva or Sane or Jesus.
My main concern is - a failed Mangala at 10 mil is better than a failed mangala at 40 mil.
Same for Mendy. A 11 million( what robertson was for ) for Mendy would not pinch but 52 million deal would.
But i guess that's how the market is.
Here's hoping for Yan Couto to be our right back for next 10 years.
Bargain!
 
Abhinav Pandey said:
Here is something that is bothering me from quite a few seasons. As a football club we have moved up quite a lot from 2008 but our transfers have been iffy from quite some time now where we are unable to unearth a diamond despite having an extensive scout system. I am talking about a 5 to 15 million player- We had Kompany and Zabaleta to boost of from previous years.
A player like Kante,Alphonso Davies Robertson Mahrez kind. Jesus and Sane can be counted as one of those but they were also some 30 mil kind of purchase. Even Academy kids sans Foden were disappointment .Expecting Braff to bring about that change after the Sancho saga. Is it how we set up as a team or our managers our our scouting departments or just sheer bad luck ?
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He's not Andy Robertson, but we did buy Zinchenko for 2m from a team that most people have never heard of and he's been a very decent player for us. There are examples here and there.
 
These Lautaro-Semedo-Cancelo swap rumors are so stupid. Inter's decided that the player they want in part exchange for Lautaro is our second choice right back, and instead of just doing that deal ourselves we're going to facilitate Barcelona getting him? Sure thing.
 
I've never ever understood this 3 way swap deal. It's well known we've got interest in Lautaro yet we're just gonna switch RBs to make it easier for Barcelona to get Lautaro? Biggest load of bull I've heard today... and I watched that government press conference earlier
 
3 ways are always disappointing. Doesn't look like City really want to be involved and should just leave Barca and Inter to it. It will only end in tears.
 
With 3 way deals it's dependent on all parties (players and clubs) being happy, which is difficult. Perhaps Semedo doesn't want to go to Inter and would only be willing to come here for example. Same with Lauturo who probably only wants to go to Barca. Mendez is probably trying to push the deal on all fronts trying to make something happen.
 
Larry Stranger said:
It's just opinions. I just don't think Upamecano is as good as everyone makes him out to be. I don't think he's as fast or dominant in the air from what I've watched of him. He got beaten out for pace quite easily by Lucas Moura (although Moura is quick). I think his ball handling skills is more dribbling rather than passing. I could be wrong, I just don't see it.
I wouldn't say Pep is totally against a big, strong CB. We were interested in Maguire, but felt he was overpriced. There are times where we face teams like Burnley with Chis Wood or Watford with Troy Deeney where we need a physical presence. Even against Real Madrid he initially went with Otamendi over Dinho (until Laporte had to go out injured) because of Benzema's presence. Pep has mentioned in the past before where he played both Kompany and Otamendi against physical teams. It's just that if we buy a CB like that he still has to have the overall skills on and off the ball. I think someone like Soyuncu would be like that, but I doubt Leicester would sell especially this summer.
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Thanks for the reply, it is all about opinions mine is Soyuncu benefits from Rodgers system but knows the league
 
Abhinav Pandey said:
Here is something that is bothering me from quite a few seasons. As a football club we have moved up quite a lot from 2008 but our transfers have been iffy from quite some time now where we are unable to unearth a diamond despite having an extensive scout system. I am talking about a 5 to 15 million player- We had Kompany and Zabaleta to boost of from previous years.
A player like Kante,Alphonso Davies Robertson Mahrez kind. Jesus and Sane can be counted as one of those but they were also some 30 mil kind of purchase. Even Academy kids sans Foden were disappointment .Expecting Braff to bring about that change after the Sancho saga. Is it how we set up as a team or our managers our our scouting departments or just sheer bad luck ?
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Ah the old whine glass half full compared to the pint pot half empty scenario, Pep has one of the highest success % for buys in the league mainly because he bought experience, this shows in his average spend per domestic trophy being 3rd in the league just behind 2 Championship winners Ole comes way down the league with Klopp bottom even if you include the CL
Youth when City were crap we held the record for bringing the most youth through to the PL, last year Utd boasted 44,000 minutes their youth and ex youth played in the Pl a record, most were relegated, City youth and ex youth won the LC cup,FA cup, EPL and the CL , it is widely believed that our under 18/19s represent our best youth since the academies changed , so wait and see? :)
 
abu13 said:
Does anyone know when the Transfer window actually now opens?
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No, would expect a short one after all leagues finished , so August maybe. C/L being finished in August may delay that though.Will depend when next season starts too. My best guess would be mid August to mid September. Really who knows.
 
We are being linked with Bailey, not sure if it is just a rehash of previous links, Leverkusen getting rid of surplus players, or the media linking us with every LW? Bailey for me is a lot like Sterling and his down side is probably too much, i have to say i would prefer Dembele


Dembele Bailey
age 23 22
apps 3/2 7/9
mins 358 744
goals 1 5
assist 0 1
yel 1 0
red 0 2
ps% 78 70
motm 0 1
rating 6.7 6,71
press price 37 m 40m
Who scored rating which are usually fairly accurate but i would still take Dembele i just think he has the ability to be a worldie
 
blueparrot said:
No, would expect a short one after all leagues finished , so August maybe. C/L being finished in August may delay that though.Will depend when next season starts too. My best guess would be mid August to mid September. Really who knows.
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I doubt that they can change the start date as it would have to be agreed by all in each league, as for the end date Europe made the FA look total clowns last year, so they have already discussed that
 
We have offered Édouard Michut(17, PSG - CM/AM) a 4 year contract. With him starting out with the U18, moving to the EDS in 2021, and then the possibility of joining the first team in 2022.

Even though he hasn't signed a pro contract yet, he still has 1 year left on his Youth contract, so we need to negotiate a fee with PSG(kind of like Sancho to Dortmund) But they decided to try to keep him instead and offered him a pro contract.

Despite these recent reports tho, we still have a good chance to convince him & negotiate a fee with PSG.


The reports & articles are twisting the words of his agent to make it sound in favor of PSG, when the agent is actually bieng really ambiguous:

"we will see but we hope to find a contractual agreement in an ambitious sporting project.”

 
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