It's quite a sensational way they've framed that story. When you read it there seems to be very little support for the paper and one of the authors asked to have their name removed from it.
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It's quite a sensational way they've framed that story. When you read it there seems to be very little support for the paper and one of the authors asked to have their name removed from it.
Man_City_Loyal
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Admission rates are going down across the country according to stat although I wonder if increased admissions in Tameside has anything to do with reports that people have been breaking lockdown by going to Werneth Low. That said Tameside does have the second lowest infection rate per head in Greater Manchester so maybe it's a blip
Hopefully, it was completely empty a few weeks back.
I suspect your right with that.
I do know with a recent religious holiday they were linking that to an increase.
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Nobody wants to be accused of starting WW4 (even if a very cold one like WW3) and China has a track record of bullying smaller countries into submission. Hence why certain people didn't want to be associated with the report.
The questions that China has to answer are now; however, a lot clearer. No matter how the Independent likes to cut it.
Chinese scientists themselves have ruled out animal transmission at the wet market (probably due to censors not understanding scientific papers).
The Chinese also spent a month hiding the virus from the outside world and WHO cooperation is now known not to be open and honest as WHO initially portrayed. Why?
This report certainly adds fuel to the fire.
It's quite a sensational way they've framed that story. When you read it there seems to be very little support for the paper and one of the authors asked to have their name removed from it.
See my recent post on the subject.
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It's the North West being virus central in the UK at the moment.So it seems the main ward at Tameside Hospital dealing with COVID-19 is filling up again :(
I hope its not the same at other hospitals.
Elsewhere in the country admissions are falling. Even in other parts of the North West.
See my recent post on the subject.
Sorry, hadn't seen that. Personally I don't see anything new really though. It's a theory that's been floating around for ages and I don't think that paper adds any extra credence to the story given (as the article says) the scientific community almost unanimously thinks otherwise. I don't think the headline is really backed up by the content of the story
I agree that IF it had been created in a lab that there would have been attempts to suppress the story, but I just dont think this is it. It's not even as if people were surprised this has happened. They've been expecting it for ages.
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They must have seen my post from Tuesday!!
Spot on mate.
grunge
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It's quite a sensational way they've framed that story. When you read it there seems to be very little support for the paper and one of the authors asked to have their name removed from it.
I cant help but feel this is just creating a blame culture to try to deflect from the government ( ours and US ) to China. Until I see hard data / evidence this will allway be a conspiracy theory.
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Shavuot (Jewish festival) was only last week so too early I would have thought.Hopefully, it was completely empty a few weeks back.
I suspect your right with that.
I do know with a recent religious holiday they were linking that to an increase.
Man_City_Loyal
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It's the North West being virus central in the UK at the moment.
Elsewhere in the country admissions are falling. Even in other parts of the North West.
I wasn't aware we were the centre now.
Man_City_Loyal
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Shavuot (Jewish festival) was only last week so too early I would have thought.
was meaning ramadan.
MillionMilesAway
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The hot weather is definitely not playing any part with this virus. I'm looking at numbers in Middle East last few days and they are getting no less cases than 2 months ago and temperatures are in their 40s (celsius) over there these days. I have a friend in Qatar and he posted a photo on Instagram yesterday, it was 43 degrees and they had 1900 new cases. Saudi Arabia over 2000 too. Bahrain and UAE 700-800. Apart from Saudi Arabia, they are all tiny countries and those are big, big numbers for countries of their size.
Iran looks like they are getting a 2nd wave too. They were early hitters, it started there at about the same time as it did in Italy and they had 3100 new cases yesterday. Their deaths plateau is lasting almost 2 months already, though it might be that their early death numbers were not really correct, guess it was much higher in March and April.
Only Europe and East Asia (Australia and New Zealand too) look like they have this thing under control so far. It's really plain to see that whoever had a good lockdown is out of the hell for now and who had an early one, never was in one.
Only few exceptions to that rule. Saudi Arabia for ex., from what I've read had some hard and early lockdowns, even curfews, but they are still getting high numbers. Guess people are not very disciplined there. But they don't have that many deaths. And it's even more strange with Qatar, they have by far the biggest relative number of confirmed cases in the world, but their official death toll is only 16 per million. That can't be the real number for sure or their "branch" of the virus is common cold alike one. Though it might be due to the fact that Arab countries have some of the youngest populations in the world.
Hot weather in and of itself isn't likely to do that much - it survives happily at 37.8 in the body.
Direct sunlight has more of an effect, as it irradiates the virus which can deactivate it. It will also heat surfaces beyond ambient temperature helping to sterilise them.
However, and this is a guess, a temperature of 43 probably means almost no-one is out in the sun, as it's too hot. That may mean they're inside, where obviously the virus spreads better.
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Felicitations, fabulous fun fact fans!
Here's the latest on the 07:33 arrival into Central London, (pre Covid-19 carried 1,000 passengers.)
27th March - 53 passengers
9th April - 55
21st April - 57
19th May - 76
Today - 89
And only about 15% wearing any kind of face covering.
It's still considered very quiet but a noticable increase in passengers.
I'd like to think that we won't ever return to sardine can status on the rush hour trains again as companies and staff realise the benefits of WFH.
Stay safe all.
Here's the latest on the 07:33 arrival into Central London, (pre Covid-19 carried 1,000 passengers.)
27th March - 53 passengers
9th April - 55
21st April - 57
19th May - 76
Today - 89
And only about 15% wearing any kind of face covering.
It's still considered very quiet but a noticable increase in passengers.
I'd like to think that we won't ever return to sardine can status on the rush hour trains again as companies and staff realise the benefits of WFH.
Stay safe all.
grunge
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It's the North West being virus central in the UK at the moment.
Elsewhere in the country admissions are falling. Even in other parts of the North West.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#category=utlas&map=rate&area=e09000028
If NW was, its not anymore. NE has highest rates if infection at the moment. Although Barrow's rate is shcoking.
do you have links for your info?
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Yeah, cos of course when you retire from the secret service you still get access to all the reports don’t you?New report suggests virus was subtly genetically modified and that it must have escaped from a lab.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...virus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/
Holy shit if true.
The report:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv..._general_method_of_action_for_infectivity.pdf
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I'm sure she's OK mate - those who have relapses and croak, tend to have them quickly - like within a day or two - of seemingly starting to recover. Karen's been recovering or recovered for many weeks now.Has anyone heard from @karen7? Noticed she's been quiet recently. I know she had covid at one point so just a bit concerned about her health.
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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#category=utlas&map=rate&area=e09000028
If NW was, its not anymore. NE has highest rates if infection at the moment. Although Barrow's rate is shcoking.
do you have links for your info?
The PHE Covid-19 Surveillance report
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-covid-19-surveillance-reports
Published every Wednesday
Top report page 6 has a rolling 2 week map by local authority. Most of the red authorities are in the North West and North MIdlands. The Tees valley isnt great either and there are hotspots elsewhere.
Get the daily figures for the UK as a CSV and sort on positive tests for a daily picture across the whole country.
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Has anyone heard from @karen7? Noticed she's been quiet recently. I know she had covid at one point so just a bit concerned about her health.
She's OK. She'll be back at some point. I'm sure she'd appreciate that you're missing her.I'm sure she's OK mate - those who have relapses and croak, tend to have them quickly - like within a day or two - of seemingly starting to recover. Karen's been recovering or recovered for many weeks now.
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She must just be staying away from this thread as I saw posts from her in the George Floyd thread from during the night.Has anyone heard from @karen7? Noticed she's been quiet recently. I know she had covid at one point so just a bit concerned about her health.
She must just be staying away from this thread as I saw posts from her in the George Floyd thread from during the night.
Ahh I didn't see she'd posted last night. All good.
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