Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

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All the comments about Jews and Nazis are simply derogatory, unnecessary and mostly stupid. I'm a City fan just as much as you, even the fact I am from Israel, and if you think that Manchester City is bigger football club than Bayern then you are blind or just fooling yourself. My point was that he had the opportunity to go back to Germany, play for a big club, be their biggest star and make more money than living in Manchester, the least attractive to be honest, and fighting for minutes of play.
 
Coatigan said:
That is very true. But doesn't make the league any less of a joke. You might get surprises in the scramble for 4th-3rd, but otherwise, a bayern monopoly of both results and players.

You asked a simple question, does it make sense for bayern to pay fairly for Sane now or wait till next season and take him for free. I told you why I think it does. You disagree, you think the pragamtism is sensible. To me, that's the exact same small-mindedness i say bayern are displaying. It isnt admirable, it is low and dare i say self-worshippy. If they really wanted the player, and were the big club they thought themselves, they would behave like one and have signed him by now.
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If you think good business is bending over and accepting any demands, then by all means. But that's exactly what gets you into trouble with FFP. And Bayern aren't doing what I would do. They bid 40m. I would have bid just slightly more than it would cost me to loan a similar level winger for one season, so probably around 20m tops. There's only going to be a few months between the closure of the transfer window and 1st January 2021 anyway.

Bayern have a gentleman's agreement with Sane, and they consider him 'in the bag', so from Bayern's perspective they're bidding for what is the equivalent of a one-year loan deal for Sane. Say his contract ran out in 5 years time and, say, Real Madrid bid 40m to loan Sane for one season, wouldn't you accept it? I'd laugh all the way to the bank.
 
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ManCityLibat said:
If you think good business is bending over and accepting any demands, then by all means. And Bayern aren't doing what I would do. They bid 40m. I would have bid just slightly more than it would cost me to loan a similar level winger for one season, so probably around 20m tops. There's only going to be a few months between the closure of the transfer window and 1st January 2021 anyway.
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Perhaps you should try and get onto the Bayern management team with that approach.
 
ManCityLibat said:
If you think good business is bending over and accepting any demands, then by all means. And Bayern aren't doing what I would do. They bid 40m. I would have bid just slightly more than it would cost me to loan a similar level winger for one season, so probably around 20m tops. There's only going to be a few months between the closure of the transfer window and 1st January 2021 anyway.
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So the assumption that Leroy only wants bayern runs right through from top arsehole to the fans then. Good to know. A loan of a winger for a second season in a row, third if you consider Rodriguez, is the ambition for a club of such stature, maybe they Should focus on celebrating their bullishness and spending more time talking publicly ablut other clubs and players than their own. Shows just how boring their micky mouse league really is and how meaningless the domestic success.
 
BosnianBlue said:
I just hope this saga will end as soon as possible.
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You mean the saga on this thread because I have heard nothing from Sane or City for months.

There is an inevitability about it, but I am just grateful for the 4 years he has had at the club and the success he has brought us. 50/40/30 million from Bayern, I do not think it will overly effect us and might make us operate smarter in the market.
 
franksinatra said:
You mean the saga on this thread because I have heard nothing from Sane or City for months.
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It's probably a wait-and-see game really and truly. I think both clubs would like to see him in action so they can better evaluate his market value. It's not yet clear how well he'll be playing after so much time out.
 
ManCityLibat said:
Yeah, imagine I would be able to bring in Bale on loan, Havertz permanently, a defender and still run a profit, then Sane for free some 10 months later. Not a bad deal eh?
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By the sound of it the supporters and the management of BM are of a similar ilk, arrogant and unprincipled by nature, if you are typical .

And the manner in which your club has behaved in the way they have publicly courted Sane is a disgrace, and if you were not one of the G14 cabal, you would have been punished instead of protected by the corrupt forces involved with UEFA .
 
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Colin Bells Boots said:
Yes a cheapskate with a low moral compass indicates everything which we associate with Bayern Munich , the most arrogant of teams and supporters .
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A cheapskate? Bayern sold Kroos for 25m (second highest sale, btw), Lucio for 7m, Hummels for 4m (when he was young), Podolski for 10m. A 'cheapskate' would have pressed for more money, but Bayern don't operate like that. You scratch my back today, I scratch yours tomorrow.

Rest assured that if one day you'll want to buy a player from Bayern, you would get him for much less than his market value. That's almost a given. Say Alaba says he doesn't want to renew his contract and MCFC move in for him... Bayern would probably not ask for more than 20-25m for him.
 
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Colin Bells Boots said:
And the manner in which your club has behaved in the way they have publicly courted Sane is a disgrace, and if you were not one of the G14 cabal, you would have been punished instead of protected by the corrupt forces involved with UEFA .
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The manner in which the club has behaved is, at a stretch, unethical but certain does not break any of the FIFA regulations with regards to player transfers. I'm not a fan of what they did, but if you say they broke a single rule you don't really know what you're talking about, and I can bet you whatever you want that they didn't.
 
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The manner in which the club has behaved is, at a stretch, unethical but certain does not break any of the FIFA regulations with regards to player transfers. I'm not a fan of what they did, but if you say they broke a single rule you don't really know what you're talking about, and I can bet you whatever you want that they didn't.
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A stretch unethical is a very mild statement seeing as your club has openly touted Sane for some considerable time.

If BM weren't one of UEFA's protected clubs, you would have been hit with a charge of illegally tapping up . BM are one of the bullies who operate with the full sanction of a corrupt UEFA body , which allows sch disgraceful behaviour to occur without punishment , whereas any clubs denied the protection of UEFA would be hit with heavy sanctions and /or punishment.

You know it and are smugly milking the siuation , safe in the knowledge that UEFA will look after your totally unethical club and and a management board of cheats and proven criminals .
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
A stretch unethical is a very mild statement seeing as your club has openly touted Sane for some considerable time.

If BM weren't one of UEFA's protected clubs, you would have been hit with a charge of illegally tapping up . BM are one of the bullies who operate with the full sanction of a corrupt UEFA body , which allows sch disgraceful behaviour to occur without punishment , whereas any clubs denied the protection of UEFA would be hit with heavy sanctions and /or punishment.

You know it and are smugly milking the siuation , safe in the knowledge that UEFA will look after your totally unethical club and and a management board of cheats and proven criminals .
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So, you want to take the bet? How much shall we make it? I can bring the FIFA regulations up in a jiffy. I say there's nothing in there that Bayern broke.

What you have, I'm afraid, is a long-standing misconception that's common amongst Premier League fans. I don't blame you. The English FA has strict rules regarding domestic transfers over and above the FIFA regulations, but these absolutely do not apply when a foreign club comes calling; they only apply if it was, say, Liverpool or Arsenal, or whoever courting your players, and then you'd be right, it would absolutely be 'tapping up'.

Likewise, you're free to start negotiating with Alaba. There's no rule stopping you from doing so.

So stop your conspiracy theories, nothing to see there. Rest assured that if Bayern broke any rule while courting Hudson-Odoi and later Sane, they would have been reported for tapping up, and Bayern would have been sanctioned.
 
In case you're still not convinced, here's the official FIFA regulations, taken from https://resources.fifa.com/image/up...rs-june-2019.pdf?cloudid=ao68trzk4bbaezlipx9u

A club intending to conclude a contract with a professional must inform the player’s current club in writing before entering into negotiations with him. A professional shall only be free to conclude a contract with another club if his contract with his present club has expired or is due to expire within six months. Any breach of this provision shall be subject to appropriate sanctions.
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Therefore, all you need to do is send a fax, letter or email to the club whose player you like with a readily-made template along the lines of "I'm interested in opening negotiations with ______ bla bla bla" and there's absolutely no consent required (unlike with the English FA regulations). Oh, and also be careful not to conclude (i.e. sign) the contract. Pretty sure that Bayern haven't signed a contract with Sane, and pretty sure that they told Manchester City they were going to negotiate with the player given that they told pretty much every German media outlet.
 
ManCityLibat said:
So, you want to take the bet? How much shall we make it? I can bring the FIFA regulations up in a jiffy. I say there's nothing in there that Bayern broke.

What you have, I'm afraid, is a long-standing misconception that's common amongst Premier League fans. I don't blame you. The English FA has strict rules regarding domestic transfers over and above the FIFA regulations, but these absolutely do not apply when a foreign club comes calling; they only apply if it was Liverpool or Arsenal or whoever courting your players, and then you'd be right, it would absolutely be 'tapping up'.

Likewise, you're free to start negotiating with Alaba. There's no rule stopping you from doing so.
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You are an arrogant liar which is becoming og a BM supporter imo. You fully understand what is being said but you prefer to use bluff to try and defuse the point to hand.

Bayern have blatantly tapped up Sane in order to secure his signing for a sum below his true worth.

For what it is worth, if there is anyway that City can affect the running of the G14 cabal, I sincerely hope that they do so in respect of united, lfc and Bayern as a priority , because all three clubs permiate arrogance and self-entitlement .
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
You are an arrogant liar which is becoming og a BM supporter imo. You fully understand what is being said but you prefer to use bluff to try and defuse the point to hand.

Bayern have blatantly tapped up Sane in order to secure his signing for a sum below his true worth.

For what it is worth, if there is anyway that City can affect the running of the G14 cabal, I sincerely hope that they do so in respect of united, lfc and Bayern as a priority , because all three clubs permiate arrogance and self-entitlement .
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He pretended to be a City fan when he first came on here, and then got rumbled. Best ignored like all deluded fans of that despicable club.....
 
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