Good idea!! We could call the media company On Digital or maybe ITV Digital!!
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CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)
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M18CTID
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For UEFAs sake I hope not, I posted this earlier in the media thread:
https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussba...tlosen-a-b1e3f296-d799-4d98-8183-514868407c6f
“Uefa's legal department asked SPIEGEL to publish the material on Manchester City.”
Has anyone else picked up on this? If what DS are saying is correct then UEFA have been complicit in causing reputational damage to the club and been in on this right from the start of this saga, and that they didn’t open their investigation as a result of the articles being brought to their attention as previously thought. I appreciate that we don’t have issues with everyone at UEFA and Ceferin seems a decent sort but I’d love to know who at UEFA was behind this.
tolmie's hairdoo
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Never in the field of ITK human conflict have i seen so many desperate to insist that we didn't know the result on Friday so as to rubbish what Cheeseman tweeted along with Sinclair and the Goat and lets be honest, the mood music coming from the gaffer himself.
Anyway, we fucking won, who gives a fuck?
Whilst I agree the outcome is all that matters, my original post was more out of shock/respect that City and Pep were inwardly nervous at the outcome right until the announcement.
Blue Shamrock
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I believe City sought and received the best legal counsel for the job, knowing how well the CAS hearing had gone.
You can be confident but until the verdict was announced, it was still to be known.
What a horrible situation to be in. There were no leaks to feed off for a reason.
They certainly did get good counsel.
Their legal lineup included Freshfields, who also went on to win an appeal in €13+ billion case in the EU general court yesterday. Talk about a good week for them.
Nothing but the best.
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No it’s not.That's a bit like saying what's the point in voting in a General Election.
SapperBlue
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“Uefa's legal department asked SPIEGEL to publish the material on Manchester City.”
Has anyone else picked up on this? If what DS are saying is correct then UEFA have been complicit in causing reputational damage to the club and been in on this right from the start of this saga, and that they didn’t open their investigation as a result of the articles being brought to their attention as previously thought. I appreciate that we don’t have issues with everyone at UEFA and Ceferin seems a decent sort but I’d love to know who at UEFA was behind this.
If that’s true they’re finished, we’d have to go nuclear on that one. There’d be whistleblowers everywhere trying to escape the fallout. That would bring the lot down.
tolmie's hairdoo
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“Uefa's legal department asked SPIEGEL to publish the material on Manchester City.”
Has anyone else picked up on this? If what DS are saying is correct then UEFA have been complicit in causing reputational damage to the club and been in on this right from the start of this saga, and that they didn’t open their investigation as a result of the articles being brought to their attention as previously thought. I appreciate that we don’t have issues with everyone at UEFA and Ceferin seems a decent sort but I’d love to know who at UEFA was behind this.
Think they mean publish as in terms of handing over the emails to Uefa.
I had heard a while back that all Uefa possibly had were the stolen emails and spoke with Prestwich Blue about it at the time.
Prestwich_Blue
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I know two brothers with the surname Kuntz. I'm sure I can persuade them to set up a media company. The Kuntz League has a certain ring to it.Good idea!! We could call the media company On Digital or maybe ITV Digital!!
The Stockport Iniesta
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City execs did NOT know the verdict when they drove to work on Monday.
They were confident, they were very hopeful, but they were sweating like the rest of us.
That is absolutely concrete.
The clubs statement was released at 9.29, so they must have known in advance.
How far in advance, who knows.
The clubs statement was released at 9.29, so they must have known in advance.
How far in advance, who knows.
You think city's execs turn up to work at 9.30?
The Stockport Iniesta
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You think city's execs turn up to work at 9.30?
What are you on above? I'm saying they knew in advance.
What are you on above? I'm saying they knew in advance.
Tolmie said they didn't know when they turned up to work.
I'm saying there is a lot of time between them turning up to work and publishing a statement at 9.29.
laserblue
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I know two brothers with the surname Kuntz. I'm sure I can persuade them to set up a media company. The Kuntz League has a certain ring to it.
In the Orkneys Twatt is a common surname. Maybe you could rope in a couple of those as well.
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So that dipper staff knew about it .As I say, we can point fingers in loads of directions but clubs such as United and Liverpool have former employees right across Uefa.
At the very top.
JGL07
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In any event, they probably had two statements prepared, one for a positive outcome and one for a negative result.Tolmie said they didn't know when they turned up to work.
I'm saying there is a lot of time between them turning up to work and publishing a statement at 9.29.
In any event, they probably had two statements prepared, one for a positive outcome and one for a negative result.
also even though it was time stamped 9:29 it was not available or didn’t show up till about 9:32
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blueinsa
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Whilst I agree the outcome is all that matters, my original post was more out of shock/respect that City and Pep were inwardly nervous at the outcome right until the announcement.
Its a possibility that City are briefing they had no idea of the result as a courtesy to CAS.
Not having it that a result of this nature and the subsequent media attention it would receive worldwide wasn't given to both parties in advance so that lawyers could brief on media releases.
That opinion ties in with those on here who have experience of arbitration and the law.
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CAS processes R58. A list of applicable law/regulations is provided to the parties he week before the award that can be validated by both parties. Any lawyer worth his salt can identify what the result will be from this.Im not privy to what may have transpired beforehand, only the assertion that the senior personnel did not know the verdict and the nerves were very much real.
I would not know as to your knowledge on actual legal process beforehand.
If you read up about previous CAS appeals, it becomes clear from this as to what the final judgement will probably be.
The Stockport Iniesta
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Tolmie said they didn't know when they turned up to work.
I'm saying there is a lot of time between them turning up to work and publishing a statement at 9.29.
I don't buy into the theory the top brass didn't know, before arriving at work.
Just my opinion based on CAS rules and regs and things PR has said.
Think they mean publish as in terms of handing over the emails to Uefa.
I had heard a while back that all Uefa possibly had were the stolen emails and spoke with Prestwich Blue about it at the time.
It always felt like this was the case; and that in forcing this through they believed more would be disclosed that nailed city - unfortunately I think it was a gamble that backfired. This was evident from the change from the clubs usually mild mannered approach to a bullish approach.
Our owners are not gamblers at heart, if we had been guilty we would have seen a deal done so I was always more towards the confident side on this entire case.