CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

blueinsa said:
Its a possibility that City are briefing they had no idea of the result as a courtesy to CAS.

Not having it that a result of this nature and the subsequent media attention it would receive worldwide wasn't given to both parties in advance so that lawyers could brief on media releases.

That opinion ties in with those on here who have experience of arbitration and the law.
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Can't see you being wrong mate.
 
Murph said:
The clubs statement was released at 9.29, so they must have known in advance.

How far in advance, who knows.
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Can people stop fixation on this - it’s neither here nor there the release time was based on a system time clock that might have been out by a minute or two and one of two prepped statements ready to publish as soon as the arbitration review was published.
 
M18CTID said:
“Uefa's legal department asked SPIEGEL to publish the material on Manchester City.”

Has anyone else picked up on this? If what DS are saying is correct then UEFA have been complicit in causing reputational damage to the club and been in on this right from the start of this saga, and that they didn’t open their investigation as a result of the articles being brought to their attention as previously thought. I appreciate that we don’t have issues with everyone at UEFA and Ceferin seems a decent sort but I’d love to know who at UEFA was behind this.
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Dodgy as fuck mate, a pound to a penny if they were challenged on this they couldn't hide behind 'cleaning up football' as it'd be only stuff on us the wanted printed so they could get their grubby hands on it.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Im not privy to what may have transpired beforehand, only the assertion that the senior personnel did not know the verdict and the nerves were very much real.

I would not know as to your knowledge on actual legal process beforehand.
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Looking from the outside I was confident that we'd be found not guilty but I was bricking it from getting up on Monday until the verdict was published. It was just like waiting for exam results.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I believe City sought and received the best legal counsel for the job, knowing how well the CAS hearing had gone.

You can be confident but until the verdict was announced, it was still to be known.

What a horrible situation to be in. There were no leaks to feed off for a reason.
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Respect to them. As others have said they probably had a good idea. But ultimately it was indeed shit or bust Monday morning. What a result !
 
blue oli said:
Can people stop fixation on this - it’s neither here nor there the release time was based on a system time clock that might have been out by a minute or two and one of two prepped statements ready to publish as soon as the arbitration review was published.
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Fixation? Its the first time I've ever mentioned it.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Oh yes. Some of the stuff l get as a result of what I have clicked even on here is astonishing.whether as ads or e mails.
But it is rare that an ad leads me to buying - especially a box at the Swamp.
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That's the link you want to click on, multiple times, from multiple devices, clearing cookies regularly..
 
City Man said:
Does anyone know what this sentence in the CAS statement means

"The CAS award emphasized that most of the alleged breaches reported by the Adjudicatory Chamber of the CFCB were either not established or time-barred".

"Most" to me means there are other alleged breaches that aren't excluded by being not established or time-barred. Is this something we should be concerned about?
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I take it to mean that the remaining one, i.e. non-co-operation, was established
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Here's a cunning plan. We should get one of the many large companies we have a connection to, maybe via SoftBank (which Mubadala is a major investor in) or Silver Lake, to encourage the G-14 to breakaway from UEFA and form their long-threatened super league. Offer them a huge financial package then, when they've stuck two fingers up to us and Ceferin and finally fucked off, pull the plug after one game leaving them high and dry.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold.
 
I need you help, someone construct a reply to this for me

" i'll explain....you clearly don't understand the link I made about the sustainable old-school Bayern model vs the City model, one built on sound financial footing, owning own ground and being successful for the last 35 years of sustainable growth, success and good governance, the other based on new-money, limited success outside the domestic league, and not sustainable when either the oil-well dries up, or the benefactor loses interest.

I am not bitter towards football in general at all, I think the PL is a great thing, however City (and PSG for another example) are doing top flight European club football a great deal of damage long term, as Jurgen Klopp said a bad day for football earlier this week and I agree with him. City and the successful appeal result demonstrates that if the big clubs now wish to push the boundaries so hard, and are so powerful that they can get away with basically what they want, £8m fine for me demonstrates that they are guilty btw, otherwise why the fine?

So imv City aren't anything I personally would want to be associated with, you do so that's your choice and good luck to you it's your club, for me it's clear that its unsustainable long term and i'd like nothing more than for them to get knocked off their perch. Proper football clubs imv are the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Leeds, Leicester, Dortmund, Bayern Munich etc. The likes of City and PSG will fade in due course, and the big-ticket players that come for the money will be off somewhere else and play for whoever can afford the crazy wages when the big money dries up"
 
rickmcfc said:
I need you help, someone construct a reply to this for me

" i'll explain....you clearly don't understand the link I made about the sustainable old-school Bayern model vs the City model, one built on sound financial footing, owning own ground and being successful for the last 35 years of sustainable growth, success and good governance, the other based on new-money, limited success outside the domestic league, and not sustainable when either the oil-well dries up, or the benefactor loses interest.

I am not bitter towards football in general at all, I think the PL is a great thing, however City (and PSG for another example) are doing top flight European club football a great deal of damage long term, as Jurgen Klopp said a bad day for football earlier this week and I agree with him. City and the successful appeal result demonstrates that if the big clubs now wish to push the boundaries so hard, and are so powerful that they can get away with basically what they want, £8m fine for me demonstrates that they are guilty btw, otherwise why the fine?

So imv City aren't anything I personally would want to be associated with, you do so that's your choice and good luck to you it's your club, for me it's clear that its unsustainable long term and i'd like nothing more than for them to get knocked off their perch. Proper football clubs imv are the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Leeds, Leicester, Dortmund, Bayern Munich etc. The likes of City and PSG will fade in due course, and the big-ticket players that come for the money will be off somewhere else and play for whoever can afford the crazy wages when the big money dries up"
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What club does this **** support? I'll gladly write you a reply.
 
rickmcfc said:
I need you help, someone construct a reply to this for me

" i'll explain....you clearly don't understand the link I made about the sustainable old-school Bayern model vs the City model, one built on sound financial footing, owning own ground and being successful for the last 35 years of sustainable growth, success and good governance, the other based on new-money, limited success outside the domestic league, and not sustainable when either the oil-well dries up, or the benefactor loses interest.

I am not bitter towards football in general at all, I think the PL is a great thing, however City (and PSG for another example) are doing top flight European club football a great deal of damage long term, as Jurgen Klopp said a bad day for football earlier this week and I agree with him. City and the successful appeal result demonstrates that if the big clubs now wish to push the boundaries so hard, and are so powerful that they can get away with basically what they want, £8m fine for me demonstrates that they are guilty btw, otherwise why the fine?

So imv City aren't anything I personally would want to be associated with, you do so that's your choice and good luck to you it's your club, for me it's clear that its unsustainable long term and i'd like nothing more than for them to get knocked off their perch. Proper football clubs imv are the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Leeds, Leicester, Dortmund, Bayern Munich etc. The likes of City and PSG will fade in due course, and the big-ticket players that come for the money will be off somewhere else and play for whoever can afford the crazy wages when the big money dries up"
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Just tell him he is a Cnut.
 
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