Nathan Ake

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Gaudion M said:
Always the way with signing players into their 30's. You never know when the the form will drop of and the wages can get massively out of kilter. We are not desperate for squad places so I would imagine he will stick around unless we pay him off. I'd much prefer we keep Stones as he could still come good where as Ota is done in now.
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Yes, I always said we should have sold Otamendi after the Centurion season. He’s played his part but now it’s long over. Will be a mistake to keep him really.
 
Jumanji said:
Yeah if Stones had concentration, pace, didn't get caught on the ball and didn't get injured every 5 minutes.
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Agreed, but I think you've missed the most important aspect: too sensitive character.

Problem isn't Stones' skillset, I have seen his qualities and I have seen great matches bossing his position.
But for some reason his head drops so often that Pep just can't rely on him.

Ota has a fighting mentality, Laporte has. Transplant that into Stones and we'd have a great CB.

But we have been waiting too long for things to change but a humans' character doesn't change in a haertbeat, maybe it never does. Ask therapists.

I can't tell if Aké has it, but it seems. Calling him a leader might work at Bournemouth but might be different at City. But truth also is, he won't be worse than Stonesy in that matter
and being HG is also a key factor in the equation.

Somehow I always liked Aké. Maybe it's his angel face :)
 
at a lesser club you get more game time defending when facing the bigger and better teams and he has looked good, being left footed is a great option to have in this man city squad and can play in a 3 or even at left back, so would be a good signing and age is ok, price is ok so if city want him you would be a fool to turn it down
 
simon23 said:
People are presuming its Stones that will move on -they are probably right but remember there have been links about Garcia to Barca.

For me as good as Garcia is on the ball he is far too slow to play in a high line even though he reads the game very well. This was exposed in the semi final in a foot race against Aubamayang most recently and would be by other teams as well.

The bigger quesion if this was true however is could Pep and the coaches get Stones back on track? We know there is an excellent footbaling centre half in there somewhere. His head has gone (for whatever reason) and the injuries have really set him back but with the injuries i think he can overcome them. He looks like he is one of those players that has a good level of natural fitness even though he has picked up injuries (or have they been an excuse for something else?)
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A high line should be immaterial if it’s done properly. He was played onside Aubamayang. I get that it will happen from time to time so pace in rare situations will be needed, but that shouldn’t be the deciding factor between us winning and losing games.
 
blueinsa said:
Bournmouth's position and goals against as well as watching tells me Ake isn't that much better.
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Gotta be a wind up, that statement does not stack up. Last time I looked Ake wasn’t the only player in the side. Put Kompany or Laporte in the Bournemouth side and see how they get on.
 
come-on-barney said:
Gotta be a wind up, that statement does not stack up. Last time I looked Ake wasn’t the only player in the side. Put Kompany or Laporte in the Bournemouth side and see how they get on.
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I did also say "having watched him".

Nothing special.
 
35M is too much for someone who has played a part in a team getting relegated.

25-30M max, especially when Bournemouth's relegation is confirmed.
 
It's probably not fair to compare him to Stones in the way we are, particularly as he's not even a City player (yet). We do enough of that with our current crop and it's never the best of discussions.

If he's good enough, he's good enough. If he's not, he's not.
 
Proy said:
A high line should be immaterial if it’s done properly. He was played onside Aubamayang. I get that it will happen from time to time so pace in rare situations will be needed, but that shouldn’t be the deciding factor between us winning and losing games.
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while i agree with you, the space we leave in behind has been a huge issue all season and one teams do exploit as well as hitting us ont he break after we lose possession in the middle third. You are right, good positional sense, reading of the game can all negate that but at times (especially when possession is lost when it shouldnt be) that bit of pace to recover is necessary as it is in defending one vs one.

Its notable that Walker is usually left deeper on set plays/corners as he has the recovery pace a lot of the others dont
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
35M is too much for someone who has played a part in a team getting relegated.

25-30M max, especially when Bournemouth's relegation is confirmed.
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I mean, he isn't just a Bournemouth player, he's also a Dutch international. £35m is quite a weird price bracket generally speaking. It sounds a lot but what does it really get you these days? Weren't Leicester looking at paying £45m for Lewis Dunk last year? I'd rather take Ake at £35m than Maguire at £80m.

It feels like we're looking at shipping out Stones/Otamendi, bringing in 2 CBs and an attack minded player for a total spend of £150m-ish. £35m for Ake leaves £115m for two more so it kind of makes sense? It doesn't massively excite me but it seems quite a solid signing and there will a couple more exciting deals to come I imagine.
 
blueparrot said:
Getting relegated has bugger all to do with his value.
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Absurd comment, of course it does.

If Bournemouth were to stay up they clearly wouldn't need the additional funds as much as they would if they were relegated due to the guaranteed revenue in the PL of £150,000,000 plus a season.

If they are relegated they will obviously be more reliant on generating additional revenue.
 
Not going to pretend I've watched any Bournemouth games over the last few years that weren't against us so my opinion of him is made from a very small sample size.
I like the look of him as a footballer, he seems to tick a few of the boxes that Pep looks for when deciding to make a signing and the fee is by no means over the top.
I can see why we would be interested and let's face it, there's two CB at the club now whose day's are numbered, it makes perfect sense to get one of the replacements in ASAP because the top target we're supposedly balls deep in for will be a long drawn out affair that might not even happen.
 
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