HelloCity
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Projectriver always gives off the vibe he would have been more excited if we didn’t get off. Maybe the podcast would have got more views then I dunno.
I think you're right.They can release what they want
It will make zero difference.
What you need to remember about Der Spiegel is
Der Spiegel reporter Claas Relotius sacked over 'invented' stories
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46624297
Email 6 of the new leaks is not ideal re this point. As usual not enough for Uefa but not ideal.![]()
Was it the Times who published 'The Hitler Diaries' a few years back? If so, they don't seem to be learning from their mistakes, as Evans claimed they would.Evans was the **** who sacked me off from my job at The Times. He's a grade A dickhead (although, I would say that!).
He was moved on sharpish himself after this epic fuck-up: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/mar/18/times-duped-hoax-qatar-dream-football-story
Most hilarious quote from the story: "But one thing will not change. If we get it wrong, we will hold our hands up and admit it."
I think you're right.
For example if these new 'revelations' were to be investigated and we were cleared again, do we then have to wait again for Der Spiegel to release new e mails which in their view cast doubt on the new verdict and so on ad infinitum?
But they aren't real, they've been proven to be cherry picked and even melded together. Didn't you actually read the report?
Projectriver always gives off the vibe he would have been more excited if we didn’t get off. Maybe the podcast would have got more views then I dunno.
Why are the new emails (assuming not doctored again) only coming to light now? What purpose do they serve?
The war is over, this I think will just make anyone with no dog in the fight, see what is really going on.
This was never about banning us from competition, yes that would be the icing on the cake but this is now laid bare for what it is. A tacky smear campaign.
Exactly, it takes time to sift 5 million emails.
We can’t be constantly held to ransom every single time and keep going through the investigation process time after time.
Good headline. But the melded email is really a non story IMO
Probably worth bearing in mind that the longer this goes on then the more (according to CAS's reasoning) is getting time-barred. hence making it even less likely that it would succeed.
You've been nothing but negative this entire thing.
The fact they changed it is the issue not what they changed it to. How can you give them the credibility you are knowing the past DS has, including having to fire staff for making up stories and now editing and cherry picking emails.
Even so, what was agreed in CAS, was a news outlet who cherry picked evidence and distorded (read changed) emails to suit their narrative is an issue in itself, any leaks that come out there from here on out cannot and should not be taken at anything over than a pot shot at us.No, they were real apart from that one. The redaction does not make what is left false.
That one was two combined - distorting but not enough to be rejected.
People say the cut and paste email ‘wasn’t too bad’ well they also hid dates from 2010 emails to infer guilt. Just a scummy publication engaged in a smear campaign. Need putting down.Even so, what was agreed in CAS, was a news outlet who cherry picked evidence and distorded (read changed) emails to suit there narrative is an issue in itself, any leaks that come out there from here on our cannot and should not be taken at anything over than a pot shot at us.