Pep Guardiola - 2019/20 Performances

Status
Not open for further replies.
blueballs84 said:
Disappointed that Pep didn't take more responsibility for this in his press conference.
Click to expand...
Same here ,implied was all On the players not doing good,i just posted elsewhere he drilled it into them to be afraid in this game so what did he expect,very let down and disappointed that he didn't take it all in his own shoulders,gone down a bit in my estimation ,this was his fuck up,three years running,he should own it,i am really pissed off with that,kev was clearly not impressed,if he didn't have a new baby to concentrate on I think there would have been a massive row
 
kaz7 said:
Pep drilled it into them all week that they needed to be afraid today ,then backs it up with the team selection,one minute you are the best attacking side in the world so press and be aggressive and confident,you can't mess with their heads like that
Click to expand...
Then the players are mentally weak. World class players look towards the manager for answers, accept changes and never let their confidence drop. A change in formation should be a positive sign that the manager and coaching stuff are doing everything to maximize our chances of success. If the "correct" way to win the CL is to just trust the players and let them choose the formation, then we can replace Pep with a cheerleader and motivational gurus.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
Reminds me of when Mourinho got old, he's haunted by past failings and can't get over it. He had the near perfect model 2 years ago and we let a coach attack and off field politics go unchecked, the result being we've looked to the pitch for failings that were barely there and in 2 years he's managed to completely disassemble what he built.

4-2-3-1, blistering wingers, high tempo and a ruthless spine who took no shit. Simple as that.
Click to expand...
He hasn't been the same in CL since RM dismantled his Bayern team in the semis.
 
RayCTID said:
True but we didn't deal paricularly well with both first and second goals. Pep can't completely legislate for that.
Click to expand...
If you look at all three goals there are three errors, Walker not keeping up with Cornet, aside the fact he played the initial player on. The second goal came from Laporte giving the ball away, the third a goalkeeping error.
Ederson had maybe four things to do all game and with three of them he picked the ball out of the net.
 
sky_blue said:
Then the players are mentally weak. World class players look towards the manager for answers, accept changes and never let their confidence drop. A change in formation should be a positive sign that the manager and coaching stuff are doing everything to maximize our chances of success. If the "correct" way to win the CL is to just trust the players and let them choose the formation, then we can replace Pep with a cheerleader and motivational gurus.
Click to expand...
They are human,it was shocking to make them afraid to put a foot wrong and be afraid of lyon,they were not madrid or bayern ffs ,this is his insecurity projected onto the team and not the other way around,they have played one way for four years,it is difficult and against their instincts to go ultra defensive,it is a skill set,it takes more than a few days training
 
kaz7 said:
They are human,it was shocking to make them afraid to put a foot wrong and be afraid of lyon,they were not madrid or bayern ffs ,this is his insecurity projected onto the team and not the other way around,they have played one way for four years,it is difficult and against their instincts to go ultra defensive,it is a skill set,it takes more than a few days training
Click to expand...
So play the way you know best and play the same team that just beat Real Madrid.
 
Like it or not, alex ferguson is the standard of winning managers in the premier league. You would never have seen him play in such a way in the champions league or admit to being afraid of the main contenders in liverpool and klopp.
 
kaz7 said:
They are human,it was shocking to make them afraid to put a foot wrong and be afraid of lyon,they were not madrid or bayern ffs ,this is his insecurity projected onto the team and not the other way around,they have played one way for four years,it is difficult and against their instincts to go ultra defensive,it is a skill set,it takes more than a few days training
Click to expand...
Maybe it's a difference in mentality. You see it as "be afraid of Lyon", I see the change in tactics as "being smarter and better than others". I would pride myself in my ability if the manger thought that I was tactically versatile enough to play a different role in a CL QF. If anything that would boost my confidence. Pep changes Kevin's role nearly every match - false 9, attacking midfielder, free 8, double pivot even sometimes as crazy as right wing back. Never seen him lose confidence or drop his head. He's always excellent. Maybe other players should learn from him, if they genuinely lost confidence in their abilities because of a tactical tweak.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've long thought that Pep needs a Director of Football who'll challenge him robustly after nights like tonight. Creative tension if you like, where the coach has to justify his decisions or be told he was wrong in no uncertain terms. I don't think it works when the DoF is your mate. I wonder how much 'groupthink' there is among the coaching team.
Click to expand...
I’m not doing a Txiki out thing here, but the squad planning has been really subpar for probably around five years now. Generally speaking, we wait for something to become a huge problem and then try to address it, rather than you know, trying to anticipate weaknesses before they happen. It’s so reactionary and constantly either leaves us exposed or puts us in situations where we suddenly need like six players. Off the top of my head:

  • We wasted Pep’s first season here with horrendous fullbacks, needed four new ones, and because that’s not a realistic thing to do, have paid for it ever since with converted midfielders and right backs playing left back, etc.
  • After having Jorginho fall through, we went into a season with just Fernandinho as DM (got away with that one).
  • Gave Otamendi an extension for ...no reason and made him untransferable when we needed a foreign slot.
  • Couldn’t replace Vinny with anyone except Harry Maguire for some reason despite it being completely obvious that we needed a new centerback last year. That one probably lost us the league.
These are in addition to pretty questionable recruitment decisions as well. I really like Rodri as a player, but why didn’t we just try and get another dynamic, atheltic player like Fernandinho when he was so good there rather than a Busquets clone? Mahrez is a failed transfer. Why did we mostly sit out the last two summers? Instead of being forced into major surgery this summer we should’ve been trying to get younger and bring in new faces here and there.
 
Last edited:
normskih said:
I don't understand the last bit of his post. Everyone knows Ferdinand doesn't like City.
Click to expand...
The clip shows Ferdinand suggesting that the Laporte was fouled and the goal shouldn't have stood. Laporte's saying that if even Rio, who has no love for City, is suggesting that then maybe people should take a closer look at VAR.
 
mmc said:
Like it or not, alex ferguson is the standard of winning managers in the premier league. You would never have seen him play in such a way in the champions league or admit to being afraid of the main contenders in liverpool and klopp.
Click to expand...
Erm totally changed the way they played for the 2012 derby,he was scared and said after he shouldn't have done it
 
He got it wrong but nobody died. Just one.of those things. I was highly critical but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top