Pep Guardiola - 2019/20 Performances

[mccity]

Tbf with how bad some of our players are reading these forums maybe Pep's done a brilliant job this season getting us into Europe again.

 

[Goater=Legend]

Let's be honest he hasn't learnt from the Derby games. Playing a slow midfield and a high line against a quick attack. I don't think he's gonna change, which is bizarre because he done it against Liverpool at home which worked well.

He needs to sit down with his coaching staff and someone needs to tell him to stop fucking about with the team.

 

[purplenose]

Pep is the best we have had but that does not mean he is infallible. Nor does it mean his time here will last forever and the time will come when for the club and for Pep change is needed. I hope that time is not now but it could be.

Firstly it is very clear that as for this team a fair bit has to change. Both in personnel and maybe in accepting that Pep has to change his thinking as well. Maybe in Spain and European competition people had been starting to find his teams out a few years ago, and of course when it came to his CL wins he did have a peak Messi to help him along.

So is he prepared to firstly commit to staying and rebuilding which would surely mean a minimum of three seasons, and is he prepared to make some moderate changes to his way of playing the game. If the answer is no to either then there is sadly a case for calling time.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I've long thought that Pep needs a Director of Football who'll challenge him robustly after nights like tonight. Creative tension if you like, where the coach has to justify his decisions or be told he was wrong in no uncertain terms. I don't think it works when the DoF is your mate. I wonder how much 'groupthink' there is among the coaching team.

Pep likes players with the correct attitudes. I think that means compliant attitudes. Same with his coaching staff. Nobody to challenge his decision making.

 

[FJRMCFC]

We could start next season poorly and we still wouldn’t sack him. I’ve said it since day 1 he has the club in a chokehold. The club waited years to get him and are afraid to make a big decision on it

 

[Craig]

Let's be honest he hasn't learnt from the Derby games. Playing a slow midfield and a high line against a quick attack. I don't think he's gonna change, which is bizarre because he done it against Liverpool at home which worked well.

He needs to sit down with his coaching staff and someone needs to tell him to stop fucking about with the team.

True to a point but that game didn’t really matter. Also those twats missed 3/4 absolute sitters early on

 

[Ashleymcduff]

There's not many players on that lyon team who would even make it into our squad nevermind first eleven. We were destroyed by a former celtic player who came on as a sub.

but they play to their strengths and a

As would have happened with any attacking player we brought on for a defender with 30 mins to go and 1-0 down.

Don’t think Phil or Bernardo are as attacking as him but that’s opinions for you

 

[Craig]

Pep is the best we have had but that does not mean he is infallible. Nor does it mean his time here will last forever and the time will come when for the club and for Pep change is needed. I hope that time is not now but it could be.

Firstly it is very clear that as for this team a fair bit has to change. Both in personnel and maybe in accepting that Pep has to change his thinking as well. Maybe in Spain and European competition people had been starting to find his teams out a few years ago, and of course when it came to his CL wins he did have a peak Messi to help him along.

So is he prepared to firstly commit to staying and rebuilding which would surely mean a minimum of three seasons, and is he prepared to make some moderate changes to his way of playing the game. If the answer is no to either then there is sadly a case for calling time.

2 titles in 4 years with his squad is average. In Europe he’s obviously been far below average. Shitload of league cups though. Our inability to win big games under him is pathetic. You can excuse the odd one down to luck etc but not over such a long period.

 

[decmancity]

One of the worst things is he's always talking in the media about how our club has very little history in the competition and how we have to believe we belong there and then he goes and sets us up like some small team that feels we don't belong there.

This winds me up more than anything. He eulogizes every team we play, how they are so so so good, so so so experience, how we are new to this stage, how we must learn.

He treats it like hes doing us a favor being here. We decided in the last week to play a formation we don't have the capability to play just to try and counteract Lyon. Fucking Lyon.

You play your best team and play the way we can do, if you get beat you get beat. When you do shit like last night all I put it down to is the way we setup.

 

[bluemoon32]

2 titles in 4 years with his squad is average. In Europe he’s obviously been far below average. Shitload of league cups though. Our inability to win big games under him is pathetic. You can excuse the odd one down to luck etc but not over such a long period.

Two great years and 2 meh years is decent enough but not what i expected from Pep.
I love winning League cups and Charity shields but to the outside world they mean fcuk all.
Our CL record under Pep is appalling and i understand why some fans are doubting Pep and the 'greatest coach ever ' shit that surrounds him.
He should stop talking us down as if we're some provincial hick club, that truly winds me up.
We're one of the biggest clubs in the world nowadays and imo Pep is as lucky to have us, as we are to have him

 

[Withnail]

I've long thought that Pep needs a Director of Football who'll challenge him robustly after nights like tonight. Creative tension if you like, where the coach has to justify his decisions or be told he was wrong in no uncertain terms. I don't think it works when the DoF is your mate. I wonder how much 'groupthink' there is among the coaching team.

Spot on, Arteta was brilliant working with Pep, both worked well together. Don't know too much about Lillo, but we need his assistant not be afraid to put him right on certain things and tactics.

 

[ScottSinclair]

We're one of the biggest clubs in the world nowadays and imo Pep is as lucky to have us, as we are to have him

Nail on head my friend.

I love Pep, but if he refuses to fucking learn we have to find someone who will. League wise he has been fine. 2 great seasons, and 2 difficult ones is acceptable in the environment the PL is.

Yesterday though was unforgivable, simply because we have seen it every year under him. Never thought we would bow out to a shitter side than that Spurs side but our inferiority complex in europe never stops surprising

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

Considering the support he has received from the board in terms of player recruitment it’s very disappointing that he hasn’t managed to at least equal what Pellegrini achieved in Europe in his last season with a much weaker side.

Yes, we got shafted by the officials and were very unlucky in general every year but we really should have made it past all four of Monaco, Liverpool, Spurs and Lyon. Part of the blame has to rest with him

 

[Easy]

The more I look at it the more ridiculous his decisions are last night.

• 3-5-2 formation, something we haven’t played in a long, long time, just expects the players to adapt to it again in CL Quarter-final.
• Starts Eric Garcia, a player that just told you he wants to leave and won’t sign a new deal
• Has one of the best squads in world football, allowed to make 5 subs, only makes 2 out of 5 available substitutions.
• Waits until the 84th minute to make the second sub, after Lyon already changed 3 players and took a 2-1 lead
• Doesn’t give Foden one minute, one of our best players since the restart.
• Doesn’t give Bernardo one minute, someone who is full of energy
• Starts Gundogan and Rodri together in midfield, a combination that gives us one of our lowest win percentages.
• Instead of starting Mendy someone who excels in a 352 and is actually left footed, he starts Cancelo.
  

 

[Neville Kneville]

The more I look at it the more ridiculous his decisions are last night.

• 3-5-2 formation, something we haven’t played in a long, long time, just expects the players to adapt to it again in CL Quarter-final.
• Starts Eric Garcia, a player that just told you he wants to leave and won’t sign a new deal
• Has one of the best squads in world football, allowed to make 5 subs, only makes 2 out of 5 available substitutions.
• Waits until the 84th minute to make the second sub, after Lyon already changed 3 players and took a 2-1 lead
• Doesn’t give Foden one minute, one of our best players since the restart.
• Doesn’t give Bernardo one minute, someone who is full of energy
• Starts Gundogan and Rodri together in midfield, a combination that gives us one of our lowest win percentages.
• Instead of starting Mendy someone who excels in a 352 and is actually left footed, he starts Cancelo.

I totally support Pep being our manager & hope it's for a long long time, but there is no getting around the fact, & it is a 'fact', that last night, he made an absolute fucking arsehole of it.

I actually think it was one of the worst managerial nights ever, by anyone.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

The more I look at it the more ridiculous his decisions are last night.

• 3-5-2 formation, something we haven’t played in a long, long time, just expects the players to adapt to it again in CL Quarter-final.
• Starts Eric Garcia, a player that just told you he wants to leave and won’t sign a new deal
• Has one of the best squads in world football, allowed to make 5 subs, only makes 2 out of 5 available substitutions.
• Waits until the 84th minute to make the second sub, after Lyon already changed 3 players and took a 2-1 lead
• Doesn’t give Foden one minute, one of our best players since the restart.
• Doesn’t give Bernardo one minute, someone who is full of energy
• Starts Gundogan and Rodri together in midfield, a combination that gives us one of our lowest win percentages.
• Instead of starting Mendy someone who excels in a 352 and is actually left footed, he starts Cancelo.

You got a like from me but I thought Cancelo played as well as anyone of our players

 

[Fame Monster]

10 months left on his contract, I suspect we'll give him one more chance in the Champions League before deciding whether to renew his contract. I don't even think he has to win it, just allow his players to play with a bit of fucking pride.

 

[decmancity]

The more I look at it the more ridiculous his decisions are last night.

• 3-5-2 formation, something we haven’t played in a long, long time, just expects the players to adapt to it again in CL Quarter-final.
• Starts Eric Garcia, a player that just told you he wants to leave and won’t sign a new deal
• Has one of the best squads in world football, allowed to make 5 subs, only makes 2 out of 5 available substitutions.
• Waits until the 84th minute to make the second sub, after Lyon already changed 3 players and took a 2-1 lead
• Doesn’t give Foden one minute, one of our best players since the restart.
• Doesn’t give Bernardo one minute, someone who is full of energy
• Starts Gundogan and Rodri together in midfield, a combination that gives us one of our lowest win percentages.
• Instead of starting Mendy someone who excels in a 352 and is actually left footed, he starts Cancelo.

Not using subs is criminal. I couldn't believe it at the time and now on reflection its even worse.
Id love to know just what he thought would happen if took off Gundogan and Rodri for Bernardo and Foden? we would lose 3-1 instead of 2-1 (Oops.)

Desperate for a goal and you put on Mahrez who I don't even remember touching the ball and then sit back and think, thats it I can't do anymore.

 

[Dax777]

Considering the support he has received from the board in terms of player recruitment it’s very disappointing that he hasn’t managed to at least equal what Pellegrini achieved in Europe in his last season with a much weaker side.

Yes, we got shafted by the officials and were very unlucky in general every year but we really should have made it past all four of Monaco, Liverpool, Spurs and Lyon. Part of the blame has to rest with him

Maybe not Liverpool. As they genuinely gave us problems. But Peregrini would have gotten past the other 3.

 

[eastmanc]

The more I look at it the more ridiculous his decisions are last night.

• 3-5-2 formation, something we haven’t played in a long, long time, just expects the players to adapt to it again in CL Quarter-final.
• Starts Eric Garcia, a player that just told you he wants to leave and won’t sign a new deal
• Has one of the best squads in world football, allowed to make 5 subs, only makes 2 out of 5 available substitutions.
• Waits until the 84th minute to make the second sub, after Lyon already changed 3 players and took a 2-1 lead
• Doesn’t give Foden one minute, one of our best players since the restart.
• Doesn’t give Bernardo one minute, someone who is full of energy
• Starts Gundogan and Rodri together in midfield, a combination that gives us one of our lowest win percentages.
• Instead of starting Mendy someone who excels in a 352 and is actually left footed, he starts Cancelo.

Agree with all the apart from the Mendy bit at the end, he has made far to many fuck ups this season.