Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

[Marvin]

You’re perfectly entitled to your opinion, though I would imagine that it will hold little truck with the vast majority of long-suffering supporters. ‘Rumours’ and ‘Many’ are simply your attempt to spin your chosen position. I too have heard ‘strong rumours’ that Guardiola will soon sign a contract extension and that ‘all of the players’ are fully supportive and cannot wait to play. The next few years are going to be fun.

However, judging by the repeatedly negative posts you have made about Guardiola, ‘Pep is a huge coward’, and players, Ake ‘Not good enough’ , Laporte ‘ Seems to bottle it in the big games’, Sterling ‘ He has been beyond garbage for months now’ , Stones ‘is a coward’, and Angelino ‘is fucking shite’, maybe ‘supporting’ Manchester City is just not your forte. :-(

When you struggle to win an argument on its own merit, you know either the argument or its advocate has a flaw.

Better to call a spade a spade. City enjoyed a disappointing season, and Pep finished it off on a sour note.

 

[Gabriel]

It isn't difficult to go through a persons post history to pick and choose things to help "spin your chosen position"

Although some seem to hide their post history :-(

Oh, don’t worry, I’m your antithesis, I see the positive in everyone. ;-)

 

[cleavers]

Although some seem to hide their post history :-(

Nobody can hide their post history, it's not possible.

 

[RayCTID]

We are covered no matter what happens. But if Pep goes the Messi signing has more chances of going pear shaped.

 

[cleavers]

I believe Pep should either extend his deal or go this Summer. I don't want him managing City without a long term commitment to the club but I want him to extend because overall I recognise that even with the blot on his copybook he's a great coach.

As I posted earlier, see the Bielsa situation at leeds, he hasn't committed yet, but he/they continue to sign players, and plan for the coming season, despite his contract having actually run out.

Pep has been a bit busy in recent weeks, and he's now probably enjoying a short and fully deserved break, so the panic to get him signed or f**k him off is bordering on the ridiculous.

 

[Jag]

Oh, don’t worry, I’m your antithesis, I see the positive in everyone. ;-)

These don't seem very positive to me mate. I can't believe you want to extend a manager that plays antiquated football!

I know we’re England’s sole representative in the competition, but are we obliged to play English football from the 1980s?

A 6 out of 10 season, and that feels strange to say when we won a trophy, but we’re not in the 1970s now.

Too brittle mentally, too many players on contracts that offer nothing, and a defence that is a shambles.

Is there a site where you can see the line ups for every game listed next to each other? Not sure we’ve played the same back 4, same 11, too often.

Another bloated squad that contains too many competent players that people somehow believe are far better than they are because they’re wearing our shirt. Too much sentimentality as well, with contracts extended to players who should have been moved on long before now.

We’ve created a harmonious and comfortable place, apart from here, but to be consistently successful and win the CL, we need to learn to be ruthless and realise that players peak and never regain/kick on.

Players will know this one rests on Guardiola, yet again.

 

[Gabriel]

These don't seem very positive to me mate. I can't believe you want to extend a manager that plays antiquated football!

I’m looking forward to it.

 

[samarasra]

great football is irrelevant if you end up with little. Charity shield doesn’t really count does it, we didn’t start our season to win the league cup, we’ve lost the fa cup and champions league to far inferior sides. Our 100 point season United came second and lost the fa cup final, second in two major comps, no one would say that was successful. We’ve had a bad year but we are allowed it considering what we’ve achieved. Time to regroup and go again

Trying to play great football has always been relevant to City supporters in the 54 years I have been a supporter, even in the lean years when we only got a few glimpses of it every now and again. Enjoy watching great football while you can, it's an underrated reward for 90 minutes of your spare time and memories don't need shiny trophies to brighten the down times.

 

[Mancity1980]

If we don’t win the league next year they will. If he’s matched Pep for PL titles with that squad plus won a European cup he will have done the better job. Not saying who is better, talking about the jobs at their 2 current clubs.

Well, I guess I beg to differ. What is being built at City, in my opinion, is a much more dynamic skilful game with greater strength in depth. It is more exciting and enjoyable to watch and will bring more success and happiness to the fans. Liverpool are playing a high press by bypassing the midfield with success that I don’t think will last, they sacrifice competitions because they can only win one trophy per season. Pep is doing a better job.

 

[Craig]

Different rules?

1. Are both managers fielding players to win all cups?

2. What is the impact of the officials?

3. Why only the 2 clubs, surely United are now in the mix?

We win the league cup each year by going strong for about 3 games lots of clubs aren’t interested. We have the squad to go the FA Cup not arsed what the scousers do it it.

Can’t include officials and it sounds ridiculous.

utd won’t get anywhere near Liverpool next season so I think it’ll be us of them again. With utd and Chelsea possibly challenging the year after.

 

[Craig]

Well, I guess I beg to differ. What is being built at City, in my opinion, is a much more dynamic skilful game with greater strength in depth. It is more exciting and enjoyable to watch and will bring more success and happiness to the fans. Liverpool are playing a high press by bypassing the midfield with success that I don’t think will last, they sacrifice competitions because they can only win one trophy per season. Pep is doing a better job.

Not seeing what’s being built at the moment to be honest as we’ve gone backwards. Yes to a level most clubs would love but you can’t call this progress surely? The fast free flowing football has also dwindled this year to lots more safe slow play at times across a fairly pedestrian midfield, KDB and Foden(when used) aside. Kompany gone no replacement, Dinho’s replacement looks inferior, Silva gone, Aguero another year older and Sane replaced by a young lad who hopefully can become a star but highly likely to need 6/12 months bedding in.

Not trying to be negative but hard to see where the squad has really progressed to since the squad that started 2018. Yes there is plenty of depth which the scousers don’t have but not hard to figure out why.

 

[Keeper!]

I could be wrong about this but I think the trail of thought at the club was the right CB was not available at the right price. One thing I have noticed in our transfer dealings is after the statement Robinho signing the club does not want to break the transfer record and walks away from deals that would do so. It was then deemed as a separate issue that walker needed competition and cover at RB. Let’s be honest Walker was fast but he lacked the technique Pep wanted. Cancelo comes in quite cocky if I remember correctly with a clear message that he wanted Walker’s place in the 1st team. Walker really upped his game consistently to a level that kept the Portuguese out.

Which ever way you look at we spent a lot of money but we did improve the right flank!...:)

"Which ever way you look at we spent a lot of money but we did improve the right flank!...:)"

Not sure we have, Walker has always been very good in my opinion, Cancelo has contributed little or nothing.

The injury/sale of Sane has meant Sterling playing more on the left, which to me lessens his and our effectiveness.

 

[toffee balls]

Good grief a talking arsehole.

Ohhhh , no he’s not.

 

[Coatigan]

I don't think he has done enough to warrant a contract extension. I'm not a huge fan of rewarding failure. I'm sure that the higher ups set certain goals at the beginning of each season and I'm not sure winning one domestic trophy was the only goal the club had this past season.

I think the club should wait until the midpoint of next season to determine if he should be offered a contract extension. This would depend on the results, overall morale of the players and support of the fanbase.

Do you really think the last 4 years have been failure?

Do you know what the targets are? I remember khaldoon explaining, 2hen we had pellegrini, that they expect bad years and that they happen. They don't exoect a trophy every year, but they look for 5 trophies in 5 years. Doubt such a holistic view has changed since.

Pep has 8 in 4, 6 if you want to be a tit. On top of achieving things bever eobe before, in the league, let alone by a city manager. Failure my arsehole!

 

[Coatigan]

This season was a failure, we didn’t set out to just win the league cup however you can’t win everything every year. If he got a new contract he wouldn’t be rewarded for failure, he’d be awarded a contract for being unreal during his time with us. Nobody else could do what he’s done and whoever we get next will be a downgrade sadly.

A failure of a season? Up until last year, klopp and liverpool (heck even their deluded fans) would have killed for this failure of aseason we just had. 2nd in leagie, a domestic cup, semis of another, past madrd and a knockout round in CL. The mighty utd would koll for it now! ditto spurs, chelsea etc etc. All have spent as much as we have, some more. All have 'top' managers.

The lack of perspective on here (not aimed at only you, as i gwt you are echoing a comment you are responding to) is astounding!

 

[Coatigan]

great football is irrelevant if you end up with little. Charity shield doesn’t really count does it, we didn’t start our season to win the league cup, we’ve lost the fa cup and champions league to far inferior sides. Our 100 point season United came second and lost the fa cup final, second in two major comps, no one would say that was successful. We’ve had a bad year but we are allowed it considering what we’ve achieved. Time to regroup and go again

Erm, have you heard Mourinho argue thatcwas his mist sucessful season in his career? And he has won a fair bit btw.

 

[Coatigan]

great football is irrelevant if you end up with little. Charity shield doesn’t really count does it, we didn’t start our season to win the league cup, we’ve lost the fa cup and champions league to far inferior sides. Our 100 point season United came second and lost the fa cup final, second in two major comps, no one would say that was successful. We’ve had a bad year but we are allowed it considering what we’ve achieved. Time to regroup and go again

Oh the charity shield doesn't count? oh ok, sorry my bad, a one off game against the chamoions of europe, sure.

Well the lyon game doesnt count than either, let's all be selective and pick what we want not to count. Fuck it, let's get the secint PL trophy tae fuck, given we'd won wone the year before. Fucking hell the revisionism.

 

[Marvin]

Well, I guess I beg to differ. What is being built at City, in my opinion, is a much more dynamic skilful game with greater strength in depth. It is more exciting and enjoyable to watch and will bring more success and happiness to the fans. Liverpool are playing a high press by bypassing the midfield with success that I don’t think will last, they sacrifice competitions because they can only win one trophy per season. Pep is doing a better job.

City's comparison to Liverpool is the fundamental clash in the Premier League.

I agree with your characterisation of Liverpool. The way they create chances is different to City. They rely on pressing their opponent into mistakes high up the field to create opportunities for their forwards against a defence that is out of position. Liverpool might face problems defending their title because teams tend to be more defensive against the Champions hence they will have to create a higher percentage of their chances through midfield creativity which at the moment isn't there. This may become a very big issue for them. I don't think Liverpool fans appreciate the new problems they will face defending the title, and there has been no discussion of this in the football media.

In regards to City, all our problems seem to stem from one weakness: central defence which has been well documented. Failure to replace Kompany was compounded by injury to Laporte whilst Rodri struggled in Fernandinho's shoes. I anticipated a City pick up when Laporte returned. I thought the Garcia and Laporte partnership was sound and that City would be able to play a 433 as before with Rodri the deep-lying midfielder supporting two from KDB/Foden/Bernardo but Pep continually wanted some extra midfield insurance in Gundogan or David Silva, and this predictably failed. I don't know why Pep did not use Bernardo and Foden more than he did. They seemed to be the obvious solution.

The signing of Ake is good move. It would be fantastic if City could land Koulibaly too. That leaves the left back position where Zinchenko and Mendy seem out of favour. Angelino is a good option as a left wing back, less so as left back. If City were to sign Koulibaly, I think we'd be very hard to beat although Pep's management is an issue. I am hoping he will extend his contract on his return.

 

[give it to gordon]

I will be move than happy if Pep signs an extension.
This may sound silly but early season I think VAR got into the players heads. It started to effect our confidence. Bernardo got screwed over for his text which again might of had a negative effect on the squad.
Our players will have seen VAR and refs bend over backwards to help livarpool again must of had a negative effect.
You can argue that our players are professionals and it shouldnt but they are human.
I think these things also got into the minds of the management. We can say it shouldnt but how many of us on here were saying this could be our last season as match going fans ?
Than we had CAS and the 2 year ban in the back ground , on the management and players minds.
City players, management, and fans have had so much shit thrown their way last season, yet we won 1 cup and quarter final of CL and SF of the fa cup plus finished second to the most helped side in the history of football, in the most bent season ever.
Yes we lost more than we would have liked but in most of those games we didnt play shit , some just not our day, some fucked over by VAR, some the keeper played world class.
We are the only team that 99% of the time have to play against a 10 men defence, liverpool dont.
Hopefully the new signings will give the squad a lift , VAR cant be as bent this season ( I hope) and we go again. I still believe Pep is the best manager around but who doesnt have a brain fart every now and again

CTID

 

[Gordyola]

great football is irrelevant if you end up with little. Charity shield doesn’t really count does it, we didn’t start our season to win the league cup, we’ve lost the fa cup and champions league to far inferior sides. Our 100 point season United came second and lost the fa cup final, second in two major comps, no one would say that was successful. We’ve had a bad year but we are allowed it considering what we’ve achieved. Time to regroup and go again

If we had a "bad year" how would describe other clubs achievements?