Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

[Dirty Harry]

With the hand grenade that Messi threw yesterday about the state of the club, I'm not sure top players and new sponsors will be in a rush to get on board.

Whilst Messi may or may not stay, he has done a lot of damage to Barca

Possibly mate, but maybe him looking at it from the inside saw it as what was needed to instigate serious changes, serious changes that were needed ?

 

[lonestay]

May be now board has won they will let messi go with some transfer fee and say- Player do not have more power than the board.

yea thats not gonna happen! If you are in the Himalayas you are going to be doing a lot of chanting and spinning a lot of those prayer pole things to get them to think like that !!

 

[Rammyblues]

Just a thought, seems that some think that a change in President will actually mean Messi will sign a new contract. Of course an argument could be made that as a new President is going to have to deal with a whole host of financial troubles, an ageing squad requiring a rebuild why would you want Messi to assist with that given his earnings. Messi has already told the fans he wants out so it isn't as though they are not aware of his feelings. A new President may send him on his way with best wishes for the future and try and retain some dignity towards their loyal and probably best ever player.

 

[not my fault!]

The shirt sales thing is nonsense. The manufacturer take 95% of the revenue from shirt sales, that's why they pay clubs the contract sponsorship. There's also very rarely any major variation year-on-year in short numbers for the big clubs

So they make 5%. Ergo it’s not nonsense lol. How much does a shirt cost to produce? How much profit is there? I bet a 100,000 shirts with 5% income is still a fuckin huge amount.
I sell and have made a product for my company. It costs me $.50 yet I sell it for £8!
Let’s say a shirt is £65 they get 5% that’s around £400,000 just off a 100,000 shirts but I bet they sell a shit load more than that Per season. Then other sponsorship endorsements and they’ll easily make up his wage so again they don’t need to shift him on.
A quick google shows Barça sell roughly 1m Messi shirts a year at £70 a shirt, that’s £3.5m or €4.1m per year just on Messi shirts. If anyone thinks they can’t bring in the other £47-48m through other revenue sources then they are nuts.
This is if they actually make only 5%, a look online says city made £18 a shirt last season so if Barça made let’s say £15 that’s €17.7m just in Messi shirts alone meaning they need to find €34.3m to fund his wage. At £18 profit that’s €21.2m so now only €30.7m to find.... See where I’m going with this? Like I said, they don’t NEED to sell him as some are clinging on to.

 

[lonestay]

A new president will offer the world to Messi, retire help run the club in some capacity .They can do with Messi the sort of thing we wanted to do with him offer Messi coaching schools basically rip off our plan for him !

 

[blue12]

A new president will offer the world to Messi, retire help run the club in some capacity .They can do with Messi the sort of thing we wanted to do with him offer Messi coaching schools basically rip off our plan for him !

Messi will have known for a while if a new president was prepared to offer the world to him yet he still wanted to leave.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Not sure I agree. A club where players decide when they can leave is not in a good space imo. Contracts are there to protect both parties. If there not worth the paper they are written on, what's the point of tgem

A party may be technically in the right (Whether Barca are or not - I have no idea). But paperwork or no paperwork, you have to ask yourself what's in your best interests. It's unusual for software companies to sue their customers for example, even when contracts are breached, because it's terrible publicity and doesn't do anything for attracting new customers - let alone doing business ever again with the one your are suing.

Same thing with football. Forcing to stay, a player who doesn't want to play for you, is never a good idea no matter what the contract says. It's made them look like complete twats, and for what? So they can get no money at all for Messi when he does fuck off? Result???! Not to mention the dressing room will be absolutely toxic for the start of the season.

 

[not my fault!]

A party may be technically in the right (Whether Barca are or not - I have no idea). But paperwork or no paperwork, you have to ask yourself what's in your best interests. It's unusual for software companies to sue their customers for example, even when contracts are breached, because it's terrible publicity and doesn't do anything for attracting new customers - let alone doing business ever again with the one your are suing.

Same thing with football. Forcing to stay, a player who doesn't want to play for you, is never a good idea no matter what the contract says. It's made them look like complete twats, and for what? So they can get no money at all for Messi when he does fuck off? Result???! Not to mention the dressing room will be absolutely toxic for the start of the season.

From his interview he did say it was difficult in the dressing room so I suspect he’s not done himself any more favours by pretty much calling out the squad, management and board. I just can’t see Barça dealing with us, they are such a stubborn club.

 

[city2]

So they make 5%. Ergo it’s not nonsense lol. How much does a shirt cost to produce? How much profit is there? I bet a 100,000 shirts with 5% income is still a fuckin huge amount.
I sell and have made a product for my company. It costs me $.50 yet I sell it for £8!
Let’s say a shirt is £65 they get 5% that’s around £400,000 just off a 100,000 shirts but I bet they sell a shit load more than that Per season. Then other sponsorship endorsements and they’ll easily make up his wage so again they don’t need to shift him on.
A quick google shows Barça sell roughly 1m Messi shirts a year at £70 a shirt, that’s £3.5m or €4.1m per year just on Messi shirts. If anyone thinks they can’t bring in the other £47-48m through other revenue sources then they are nuts.
This is if they actually make only 5%, a look online says city made £18 a shirt last season so if Barça made let’s say £15 that’s €17.7m just in Messi shirts alone meaning they need to find €34.3m to fund his wage. At £18 profit that’s €21.2m so now only €30.7m to find.... See where I’m going with this? Like I said, they don’t NEED to sell him as some are clinging on to.

I can’t see many shirt sales in Asia costing £70 they are mostly snide ones

 

[didsburyblu]

Bart doesn't care, I dont think he even has Barca best interest at this point, he is not going to go down in history as the man who sold/forced Messi from his beloved Barca.
As always money will be found and used to smooth things over.

Well he's already going down as the man who destroyed Messi at Barca so I don't think selling him is gonna make his reputation get worse if anything it'll improve it

 

[theres only one carlito]

Was always on the cards, him staying.

I was taught one very valuable lesson many years ago when tried too help a mates girlfriend when he’d hit her, ‘don’t get involved in domestics, she’ll always go back too him’
My mates a .unt for what he did and she is for going back.

ditto Barça and ditto Messi. But that’s their problem not ours.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

So they make 5%. Ergo it’s not nonsense lol. How much does a shirt cost to produce? How much profit is there? I bet a 100,000 shirts with 5% income is still a fuckin huge amount.
I sell and have made a product for my company. It costs me $.50 yet I sell it for £8!
Let’s say a shirt is £65 they get 5% that’s around £400,000 just off a 100,000 shirts but I bet they sell a shit load more than that Per season. Then other sponsorship endorsements and they’ll easily make up his wage so again they don’t need to shift him on.
A quick google shows Barça sell roughly 1m Messi shirts a year at £70 a shirt, that’s £3.5m or €4.1m per year just on Messi shirts. If anyone thinks they can’t bring in the other £47-48m through other revenue sources then they are nuts.
This is if they actually make only 5%, a look online says city made £18 a shirt last season so if Barça made let’s say £15 that’s €17.7m just in Messi shirts alone meaning they need to find €34.3m to fund his wage. At £18 profit that’s €21.2m so now only €30.7m to find.... See where I’m going with this? Like I said, they don’t NEED to sell him as some are clinging on to.

You've missed out the design and manufacture costs, the advertising, packaging and delivery costs, the store costs (and profits for the store), the fees and government taxes.
A £70 shirt is not worth £70 to the manufacturer. Far from it.

 

[BluechesterCity]

I'll be glad if he doesn't come to City, reading certain sections of the media, and people on social media he went from one of the best ever to an over the hill cart horse no fit to lace CR7's boots as soon as it was rumoured he was coming our way!

...and the majority of Messi's goals were flukes any way.

 

[dadnlad]

So they make 5%. Ergo it’s not nonsense lol. How much does a shirt cost to produce? How much profit is there? I bet a 100,000 shirts with 5% income is still a fuckin huge amount.
I sell and have made a product for my company. It costs me $.50 yet I sell it for £8!
Let’s say a shirt is £65 they get 5% that’s around £400,000 just off a 100,000 shirts but I bet they sell a shit load more than that Per season. Then other sponsorship endorsements and they’ll easily make up his wage so again they don’t need to shift him on.
A quick google shows Barça sell roughly 1m Messi shirts a year at £70 a shirt, that’s £3.5m or €4.1m per year just on Messi shirts. If anyone thinks they can’t bring in the other £47-48m through other revenue sources then they are nuts.
This is if they actually make only 5%, a look online says city made £18 a shirt last season so if Barça made let’s say £15 that’s €17.7m just in Messi shirts alone meaning they need to find €34.3m to fund his wage. At £18 profit that’s €21.2m so now only €30.7m to find.... See where I’m going with this? Like I said, they don’t NEED to sell him as some are clinging on to.

sorry mate im not arguing but him of SSN said city will need to sell 10 million shirts and still not make enough for his wages and they must be right. right

 

[city2]

I think Messi has had a wobble, realised he might not win to many more trophies or awards and thought it’s now or never to leave, without realising his family are all settled in Barcelona and don’t wanna upsticks and leave all family and friends behind. He will always be regarded as one of the world greats the only thing he hasn’t won is possibly a World Cup, just can’t see him coming to City.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Maybe Messi should have taken this to court. Here is a video from Bartomeu in 2019 explaining the contract situation. It basically says Messi has a contract until 2021 but in his final year he can leave for free if he tells them before the season starts.

No wonder Messi is raging.

 

[Corky]

Maybe Messi should have taken this to court. Here is a video from Bartomeu in 2019 explaining the contract situation. It basically says Messi has a contract until 2021 but in his final year he can leave for free if he tells them before the season starts.

No wonder Messi is raging.

He had already had 2 months pay of his final year before he decided, he just should have read his contract.

 

[Superace]

He had already had 2 months pay of his final year before he decided, he just should have read his contract.

Legally yes, morally no.

 

[BlueAnorak]

We've been played again. When will we ever learn.

 

[abu13]

Barca are turning into a complete cluster fuck of a club, Losing Suarez, looks like Vidal will go, Messi demoralised and in the shit financially and no leadership. Appointed a manager who nearly relegated Everton as well.

There only real target to improve them appears to be Garcia, No wonder Messi is wanting to leave.