Stevieatlasblue
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this is a long thread. Did we lose or something?
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Leicester City (H) Post Match Thread
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Tricky_Trev
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If only it was filled with awe.So many people over reacting. We had a an awe filled game, it happens.
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Did not get to see it, I was on my way back from Scotland. Listening to the 5 live commentary it sounded like a pre season game and we were basically playing at half speed. So for those who watched it, was it lack of effort, the formation, individuals etc..? Any idea why stones did not start?
I 100% agree mate.There was one point in the game where Kev and I forget who must have passed it back and forth between them for a number of times and Leicester just sat parked. When we went 1-0 up should have done that for the rest of the half. They would have had to come out. With all the injuries should have sat on the 1-0 and been more pragmatic.
However i dont see it happening this late in Pep tenure here.
He simply dosent know the meaning of pragmatism.
In my opinion his own ego has stopped him achieving true greatness, Champion League successes
I can think of 4,5,defining games in his time with us,where a bit of pragmatism and we would likely have seen different results.Monaco away in the Champions League.Even now i am still like how the fuck did we lose that tie over 2 Legs,a healthy home advantage,we go there and make it so easy for them.Then there is 3,4, Liverpool debacles.We go to Anfield and try and Boss them on their own Pitch,and are picked off.The first leg in that Champions League it was all but over by half time.So frustrating.We should have been hitting these teams on the counter,not them hitting us.It was suicide.
Pep can complain all he wants about teams have 11 players behind the Ball.
It has been proved over,and over,and over again,that this is the way to beat us.simple quick counter attacking football.Brenda was under no obligation to turn up drop his pants to be dry bummed.He did what was right,Out thought Pep at his own game.Pep can moan all he wants,he is paid shit loads of money to deal with it.
It is for Pep to have a Plan B.And yet Pep didnt even need a plan B,as you say all he had to do was change our style at 1-0 up,be a bit more pragmatic.,Yet Pep is seemingly incapable of that.
Sadly i dont see it changing this late in his time with us.
If he cant do it now with 9 players missing for all sorts of reasons,it is never going to happen.
He has given me 2 cracking seasons,domestic success,and breaking records.that will never be forgotten.He is a very good manager .
He is not truly great manager though,i dont see him ever winning the Champions League,his lack of pragmatism trips him up every time.
Same criticism was leveled at him at Bayern Munich.
I think this season is going to be reminiscent of Pellegrini long good bye.
Pep going through the motions,players going through the motions.And Pep hoping deep down to be back in Barcelona by Christmas
Hope to fuck i am wrong.
Wasnt just the defeat yesterday,we will lose games shit happens.It was the capitulation,the lack of effort.I have watched that game back.Garcia moving around like a Pensioner with a Zimmer frame,was that his way of saying "Fuck you" on news of Dias arrival.
Eccles Blue
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Well an ex-Blue has come out to defend us:
"Former Manchester City defender Sylvain Distin has been speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live this morning about his old club's defeat to Leicester yesterday.
"It’s disappointing, you don’t expect a side like Man City to concede five goals but I think Pep was right in what he said, there’s no need to panic, it’s only the beginning of the season," he said.
"They are aware of the lack of intensity they have defensively and they are trying to sort this out.
"The transfer market is not finished yet so we’ll have to wait and see how they’re going to react.""
"Former Manchester City defender Sylvain Distin has been speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live this morning about his old club's defeat to Leicester yesterday.
"It’s disappointing, you don’t expect a side like Man City to concede five goals but I think Pep was right in what he said, there’s no need to panic, it’s only the beginning of the season," he said.
"They are aware of the lack of intensity they have defensively and they are trying to sort this out.
"The transfer market is not finished yet so we’ll have to wait and see how they’re going to react.""
decmancity
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Scored a screamer, created fuck all after that.Did not get to see it, I was on my way back from Scotland. Listening to the 5 live commentary it sounded like a pre season game and we were basically playing at half speed. So for those who watched it, was it lack of effort, the formation, individuals etc..? Any idea why stones did not start?
Leicester sat back and waited, Fernandinho went off, they then tore through us and we gave away 3 penalties and conceded a screamer.
Stones injured apparently, with Dias coming in he has probably signed his own death certificate.
It is not like this style was Leicester secret weapon ffs.Leicester were always going to sit back and use Vardy on the counter. Obvious tactics but we had no idea what to do against it.
I still don't understand why our defence doesn't drop a little bit deeper against pacey forwards to nullify the chance of them getting in behind. It would make Rodri's role easier also. Yes we probably wouldnt be able to press the Leciester defence in the way we did but we would of still created enough chances im sure to at least not lose the game.
It is how they play every fucking week.
Surely Pep has played Leicester enough times by now,and slipped up enough times to this style to figure out a formula ?
It was actually funny hearing Pep criticize Leicester style in the after match interview.Like it was the first time Leicester had ever played this way.
He worries me some times.
Newman Noggs
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When your centre half is playing in a hat, you are fucked.
Alternatively, an interpretation is that this is on the manager, since his tactics and personnel management are directly responsible for the players' attitude in this case!
While I'm inclined to agree with you since our form really cratered without Kompany, it's worth noting that we also used to play in a far more consistent system that utilized the whole squad and played to the player's strengths. Any player can be a leader in an environment like that, and that's what we saw in 17/18 and 18/19 imo.
Its not down to the manager he can't physically go out on the pitch.
Pablo Zabaleta or Vincent Kompany, the latter is a shrewd and intelligent man and has a business degree , he would not waste the valuable club time dealing with idiots like ADL or at the very least put them in their place.
The Barca influence of this club has to end and quickly, their time is over, the game has evolved and they have not.
Lack of experience in negotiating. They would get rinsed by the likes of De Laurentiis
We lost 9 games last season. Don't want to be too much of a doom monger, but the thing that hasn't been addressed in the transfer market is our intensity. We need more players with energy like foden.People need to relax we only lost 1 game with many Injuries.
Relax and chill out
Chippy_boy
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Mendy and Walker have to push forward to create width as we play inverted wingers to come inside. You can't really expect them to get back from that position and catch fast strikers like Vardy.
So we set up wrong then? As I said in a previous post, it was like 2016 all over with Pep thinking we can just pass, pass, pass, pass and run out easy winners. Only to find oh shit, they've broken on us and scored. Never mind just keep the ball and keep passing passing passing. Oh shit, they've broken on us and scored again. Never mind, pass, pass pass.
Only this time it was 5 times not the previous 4.
We lost 9 games last season. Don't want to be too much of a doom monger, but the thing that hasn't been addressed in the transfer market is our intensity. We need more players with energy like foden.
Too many changes and we will have a job in bedding them in. Chelsea are having that problem right now and as they haven't yet sorted out their goalkeeper issue
When your centre half is playing in a hat, you are fucked.
And your star winger with gloves on in September
Kokonut1307
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anyway, just an apology to Leicester fans for having to read the shit Rodri came out with yesterday. You were the better team, deserved to win and it's just denial on behalf of our squad who have a poor mentality these days. Congrats.
I have to disagree. Rodri was spot on about Leicester. They created 1 chance that came to a goal (their 2nd) and brought a bus with a prayer that it is their lucky day. We were the ones who capitulated. You can’t give away 3 penalties. That was absolutely pathetic from us and that could have happened against anyone.
Maybe the pragmatism went with Fernandinho, as that didn't exactly make us less vulnerable at the back or more potent up front.I 100% agree mate.
However i dont see it happening this late in Pep tenure here.
He simply dosent know the meaning of pragmatism.
In my opinion his own ego has stopped him achieving true greatness, Champion League successes
I can think of 4,5,defining games in his time with us,where a bit of pragmatism and we would likely have seen different results.Monaco away in the Champions League.Even now i am still like how the fuck did we lose that tie over 2 Legs,a healthy home advantage,we go there and make it so easy for them.Then there is 3,4, Liverpool debacles.We go to Anfield and try and Boss them on their own Pitch,and are picked off.The first leg in that Champions League it was all but over by half time.So frustrating.We should have been hitting these teams on the counter,not them hitting us.It was suicide.
Pep can complain all he wants about teams have 11 players behind the Ball.
It has been proved over,and over,and over again,that this is the way to beat us.simple quick counter attacking football.Brenda was under no obligation to turn up drop his pants to be dry bummed.He did what was right,Out thought Pep at his own game.Pep can moan all he wants,he is paid shit loads of money to deal with it.
It is for Pep to have a Plan B.And yet Pep didnt even need a plan B,as you say all he had to do was change our style at 1-0 up,be a bit more pragmatic.,Yet Pep is seemingly incapable of that.
Sadly i dont see it changing this late in his time with us.
If he cant do it now with 9 players missing for all sorts of reasons,it is never going to happen.
He has given me 2 cracking seasons,domestic success,and breaking records.that will never be forgotten.He is a very good manager .
He is not truly great manager though,i dont see him ever winning the Champions League,his lack of pragmatism trips him up every time.
Same criticism was leveled at him at Bayern Munich.
I think this season is going to be reminiscent of Pellegrini long good bye.
Pep going through the motions,players going through the motions.And Pep hoping deep down to be back in Barcelona by Christmas
Hope to fuck i am wrong.
Wasnt just the defeat yesterday,we will lose games shit happens.It was the capitulation,the lack of effort.I have watched that game back.Garcia moving around like a Pensioner with a Zimmer frame,was that his way of saying "Fuck you" on news of Dias arrival.
Neville Kneville
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Look at Garcia's position. If he steps out he has to close and close quick. If he takes few steps back and allow for Rodri to close, then hes cutting that pass into Vardy.
Kyle on the other hand is in the wrong position.
Absolutely right, Garcia should be out, attacking the ball early, as he should have been for the shot at the end. He's total shit & learning how to defend, at our expence. What a fantastic training session for him.
Walker, as usual, is looking at Garcia's problem, making the mistake of wondering if he has to intervene, like he's been doing since Garcia's first game in the League Cup last season. Laporte was doing exactly the same & fucking his own game up.
Vinny would have fucked him off out of the team, long ago.
Pep would point out though, that the whole attack stems from no 2nd challenge in midfield, because the unit was too deep in the first place.
That's the catch 22.
We were shit.
The defence was shit.
The tactics were naive considering the opposition.
But its one game.
I wonder if bayern fans are being equally as reactionary to their 4-1 loss yesterday.
Put a decent pairing of Laporte and Dias in, one of jesus or aguero up top and for gods sake a LB that can defend(!) and that game goes a completely different way.
The defence was shit.
The tactics were naive considering the opposition.
But its one game.
I wonder if bayern fans are being equally as reactionary to their 4-1 loss yesterday.
Put a decent pairing of Laporte and Dias in, one of jesus or aguero up top and for gods sake a LB that can defend(!) and that game goes a completely different way.