Leicester City (H) Post Match Thread

JamesMCFC said:
I think we are going to look forward to the same sort of season as last year folks.

No pace in the team, a useless left-back and a slow CDM is gonna cost us.

Teams know how to play against us now, sit back, hit us on the break and get left with one on ones. It's criminal how one ball over bypasses our midfield.

It's criminal how we have not solved this issue, most blues can all agree what the problems are and the club are either oblivious on how we fix it or they don't see the same problem.

Both scary thoughts.
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I’ve a feeling you’ll be proven right. For a couple of seasons they were an extraordinary team. With the loss or decline of Kompany, Fernandinho, Silva, Aguero and Arteta and shall we say, nefarious activities from our friends in high places; the team is very good to good. Hope springs eternal though and it might come in a package called Ruben Dias and the fact that this reincarnation of MCFC does not roll over and die.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
but they were, they exploited our tactical and mental weaknesses and got us frazzled to the point that we gave away 3, they deserve credit for that no matter how much we handed it to them.
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I'd have more respect for them had they not thrown themselves about as if they'd been pole axed by Mike Tyson. We are supposed to give credit for players running into other players, throwing their legs at them to make contact are we? Yes, let's condone that sort of play acting.
 
This club has enough money to make sure that we have enough top drawer players available.

Going into this season with just 2 recognised strikers was absolutely ludicrous. As I've said before we should have gone for a player like Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Suarez (well not him) - someone who's been around and likely to be ok playing 20 games a season on a decent earner. Someone who can finish. We try to score too many perfect goals.

Seriously, I can't understand why we've gone into the season in this position.
 
paulchapo said:
I'm just watching the football show on sky and I think they got it spot on. Basically Mendy taking up the wrong positions and being caught out by the pass and nobody at the back organising the defence. We had a rookie kid and someone who has been here five minutes as our central defence and it showed. Mendy is Mendy and is finished here as far as I'm concerned. Walker should know better, you just can't put hands on players in the box, especially with var, you get away with nothing. They said we have lost the spine of the team and we have, Kompany, Silva and no Aguero, all world class players.

I hope this centre half is the real deal but we still, after all this time, need a decent left back. We need a fast, intelligent holding midfield player. Fern is 35 now and Rodri is no replacement. Since I've watched him play I'm amazed we bought him for that position. Foden has great ability but he will take time to come anywhere near Silva if he ever does. Up front we can see how vital Aguero is to us.

So praying this centre half is the real deal we need a left back, holding midfield, creative midfield and a striker. Most of us have been saying this for a couple of seasons now and nine defeats last season and yesterday's hammering are making it blindingly obvious with each passing game. We thought we'd addressed some of these by signing Rodri and Mendy but they're way short of what we need.

Rodgers tried to make himself sound a tactical genius by saying they decided not to press the keeper, but he just did what most managers do, sit back, hit us on the break and overload on our glaring weak spot which is Mendy.

Pep actually saw our problem which has been alluded to by a few here, at 1-0 we didn't have to go pushing everyone forward for a second goal against a good counter attacking side. They stayed sat back even at 1-0 and drew us in knowing they'd eventually catch us on the break and it worked perfectly, aided by absolute stupid challenges for the three penalties.

When was the last time we conceded five at home? I remember Everton at Maine Road but after that I'm struggling.
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You make valid points, most of which I was saying to my family on WhatsApp prior to watching the game.. plus the additional observation on seeing the teamsheet I made expressing my surprise that Garcia continues to be selected given his stated intentions about his future (decent prospect that he is, I wouldn't let him anywhere near the team given he doesn't want to stay with us and is winding down his contract)

The key thing for me from yesterday's performance is what you cover in your point regarding 'pushing everyone forward..' etc.

I know the game isn't as simple as what I'm about to suggest. And I know it would look bizarre to keep possession when we take the lead as we did yesterday (rather like the Germany-Austria 'Disgrace of Gijon' World Cup game in 1982 when they both qualified, cheating Algeria of a qualifying place by passing the ball around for the 2nd half as Germany led 1-0) but I've been saying this for years under Mancini, Pellegrini and Guardiola - why do WE have to always be the 'entertainers'?

Every club we come up against, with the exception of a couple of top sides around Europe, does the same thing, week in, week out.. the ball gets kicked off, drop back to the penalty area with 5 at the back, 4 or even 5 in front of that and hope we'll make the (inevitable) mistake that 'will give them something to hold onto' as the commentators put it. Every week the same, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat..

So, maybe once in a while we should just pass the ball around at the back when we take the lead like we did yesterday. See if the boring f**kers will have a go for a change..
 
IcriedwhenTueartleft said:
I'd have more respect for them had they not thrown themselves about as if they'd been pole axed by Mike Tyson. We are supposed to give credit for players running into other players, throwing their legs at them to make contact are we? Yes, let's condone that sort of play acting.
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we've faced all this shit and more in previous seasons, the only difference is we have a broken mentality now so fall victim to it. Unless the club are going to get dirty off the pitch and crush the Dippers and Rags stranglehold of authorities then it's down to the squad and management to have a ruthless mentality to deal with this like we did a couple of years ago. It doesn't help on the pitch that we take all the shit we're given off the pitch but we have to overcome it. I don't blame Leicester for pandering to what would get them the result, the issue is on the pitch we fall for it and let it beat us, and off the pitch we haven't eradicated the politics and problem that allows opponents to do that and do us over.
 
One of the key problems for me is we have too many fragile confidence players in our squad. By that I mean if someone makes a mistake it seems to really effect their performance for the following few minutes. And if they make another mistake in that time it just rolls on and on. Mendy is the prime example of that. He can do ok and even show some decent signs but watch what happens when he makes a mistake, he will inevitably make another one shortly afterwards. I think this still comes back to not replacing Vinny with another leader, someone who will gather everyone together when things aren't going well. Someone who knows the rest of the players inside and out and who knows which players need a bollocking and which respond better to the gentle word.
 
RayCTID said:
We didn't meet their demands and that will do me and didn't get rinsed on the fee.
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Worked well when we did the same thing with VVD. Sometimes if you need a player, you just pay the fee. That is as long as the opposing club don't royally take the piss and move the goalposts, something that ADL has done many times before because he's a ****. I think it's more like that's what's happened here again.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
One of the key problems for me is we have too many fragile confidence players in our squad. By that I mean if someone makes a mistake it seems to really effect their performance for the following few minutes. And if they make another mistake in that time it just rolls on and on. Mendy is the prime example of that. He can do ok and even show some decent signs but watch what happens when he makes a mistake, he will inevitably make another one shortly afterwards. I think this still comes back to not replacing Vinny with another leader, someone who will gather everyone together when things aren't going well. Someone who knows the rest of the players inside and out and who knows which players need a bollocking and which respond better to the gentle word.
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yes this is when panic sets in, and mentally they are not strong enough to overcome it. Mentally strong was made fun of in Wenger era he said every game his team need to be mentally strong and react differently on the field when things go bad.

But many of our players start panic this panic is often noticed by opponents and they build on it. They must be fucking tired also of opponents doing 3 attacks and scoring 3 goals. That makes them shit scared to play and know if we concede 1 chance thats about 1 goal for opponents. It keeps happening, becomes a habit.
9 PL losses, Arsenal loss in FA, Lyon loss in CL.
This season we have Leicester loss already and the panic played a big role in all of these losses.

We had huge comebacks in recent years , 2-0 down and turn into 3-2 wins, late wins, late comebacks.

now if we go 1-0 down, 2-0 down is never too far away and we aint turning it around...
 
I've given myself approx 24 hrs so I can be subjective about yesterday's shit show.
Nobody can hold their heads up after that. Poor all round and dint deserve anything but fuck me it's not 5 a side and it's not none contact sport.
Penalties - 1st one no doubt, caught wrong side and grabs him, just let the keeper try and make a save ffs. 2nd one Garcia didn't even play at the ball, Vardy threw his foot at him, initiated the contact and went over, VAR should have told Oliver to check that. 3rd one, poor defensive play but no meaningful contact and a deliberate dive, Maddison, who'd have thought.
The none penalties annoyed me but not as much at how we had no cohones, conceded nearly every attempt at goal and created next to fuck all. By fuck did we miss Jesus' press up front.
I'd like to think it's a one off and we'll treat it as a kick up the are but we've shown time and again we have a soft underbelly and 5-4-1 for an hour fucks us right up as we hardly ever turn posession into goals. Yes we're carrying injuries to key players and have had no preseason but the signs are ominous. No win against Leeds and the Arse (who will do exactly what Leicester did) and I suspect you can kiss the league goodbye as we'll be probably 10 points behind. I laughed last week after Wolves listening to Johnny fucking Giles on OTB say we were poor and could see us outside the top 4. I'm not laughing today.
 
Thiago Silva - .... he is/was the missing piece. Its crazy how we didn't go in for him.

The Messi saga took its toll. I for one was adamant we focus on other signings and not focus too much on Messi

Midfielders needed and big time.

Missed out on Fabinho, Thiago, Fred, Ndombele - these guys are natural replacements for Fernandino.

Right now we have fk all ... Fernandino is 35. He wont all season. And we edging towards going into season with the midfielders we have at our disposal. We wont win shit..there I said it.
 
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