COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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The Black Shed said:
I wonder if the NHS covid app has caught up with this new govt. tier system? I mean, it's got to be a damn clever app, cost squillions to develop, is world beating etc etc. How many of you can say that the app has changed its covid alert status level in response to the govt. level changes?
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The one thing it should be doing is opening up every day, prompting you to enter your health status as you feel on that day. And it won't close or disappear from your home sreen until you do so. I forget to do it for long periods at a time, am sure I'm not the only one not handing out any data, even if I'm perfectly well. So any sick-to-healthy ratios/charts the NHS have been building via this app have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 
Scotland week to week

13 deaths v 5 last week

1351 cases v 1027 last week

17.6% positive v 13.5% last week

601 in hospital v 377 last week

51 pn ventilators v 31 last week
 
My Mrs & I are due to go to York tomorrow. York just been upgraded to tier 2. Now will we be able to go to pubs/restaurants as long as we socially distance. I am so confused.
 
Excellent thread explaining why acting now is so important, and not just where cases are currently high. From Prof. at UCL.

 
Northern Ireland concludes the grim rise in deaths.

Deaths 4 (v 1 last wk)

Cases 763 (v 923 last wk) (this fall is notable - as is the% fall from over 4 to just over 3%)

Rolling weekly cases also falls from 6693 yesterday to 6394 today (first fall in a good while). (v 4674 last wk)

Of these 1101 were under 19, 2532 aged 20 - 39, 1873 aged 40 - 59, and 888 over 60 of which 96 were over 80)

Patients 201 - up 37 in one day! (v 120 last wk)

Ventilators 17 (v 11 last week).
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Excellent thread explaining why acting now is so important, and not just where cases are currently high. From Prof. at UCL.

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Professor of operational research. Hardly an expert in global pandemics. You can't have your cake and eat it on this, you either only listen to experts in that field and rule everything else out. Or listen to all with an open mind. Seems like you've chosen to listen to all, at long as they are saying what you think and dismidsing the rest. If it was as professor in biotechnology saying that lockdowns don't work you'd be quick enough to point it out.
 
So total UK hospital deaths today are another tragic high of 108. With all 4 nations having multiple deaths.

Last week it was 50 - so more than doubled in 7 days.

GIven deaths lag other measures by two or three weeks anything we do now will not change this worrying upward climb immediately.

All settings last week was 77 - we are now seeing 100+ numbers daily. Lets hope I am not saying 200+ numbers in a few days but that has to be a possibility, Sadly
 
Can anyone honestly say the App has worked for them ? That they check it regularly? That it’s making any difference at all.
 
Cases 2841 from the three nations. Nowhere had a record number today and all three were lower than yesterday by nearly 500 cases in total.

Last week's three nation cases were 2588 - so the week to week increase is encouragingy low too.

There were 17.540 last week after England added nearly 15K.
 
Ages of infections in Scotland today

171 people aged 65+
Including 19 people aged 85+

69 new infections in children aged under 15
Including 17 in children aged under 5


290 infections in people aged 15-24

820 infections in people aged 25-64
 
True_Blue69 said:
Professor of operational research. Hardly an expert in global pandemics. You can't have your cake and eat it on this, you either only listen to experts in that field and rule everything else out. Or listen to all with an open mind. Seems like you've chosen to listen to all, at long as they are saying what you think and dismidsing the rest. If it was as professor in biotechnology saying that lockdowns don't work you'd be quick enough to point it out.
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this whole argument of who's expert is better is pretty silly really on all fronts. biotechnology will be able to tell you how the virus does what it does to a body, how it gets in, how it attacks and damages / multiplies. they probably wont have a clue on the effects of a population in terms of psychology and how a group will act.

You will have virologists who can study the virus and specialise in the spread around the globe, which is what the WHO will be doing and making suggestions on how to act but they wont be thinking of the socioeconomic impacts, purely about stopping the virus.

its why we get the divides between groups of experts. as the handling of a population isn't really anything to do with the virus. its a wholey different area. probably closer to a pshychology level thing, then add in socioecnomical stuff in there.

operational research though is pretty much what Sage will be doing. taking the big data models and applying them for making policy decisions. these are the sorts of people that will be advising the Gov on what to do and why. they dont need to know the ins and outs a the virus, just need the data.

exact description.
"Operational Research (OR) is the discipline of applying advanced analytical methods to help make better policy decisions."

I dont think there will ever be 1 expert for all of it.
 
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