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[Gaylord du Bois]

Is that what happened?

I doubt that they walked there.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Burnham is behaving disgracefully. Totally inexcusable. If it was a Tory doing it this place would be on fire.

The local Tory mps are agreeing with him are they not? Leftie sandle wearing Tory mps imagine that.

 

[blueparrot]

I doubt that they walked there.

They weren’t on buses either, in fact they weren’t all together, nor all from the same place.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The local Tory mps are agreeing with him are they not? Leftie sandle wearing Tory mps imagine that.

I think everyone realises that the Government has been abysmal at engaging with Northern leaders.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The local Tory mps are agreeing with him are they not? Leftie sandle wearing Tory mps imagine that.

I wouldn't have my MP Graham Brady down as one, but he's not chairman of the 1922 committee for nothing...

He knows he needs to keep his locals onside, certainly in Alty, with a high-net worth, scores of major business owners, etc.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Maybe if Boris had used track and trace sytems in place and available, instead of thinking he could reinvent the wheel with his world beating system. It may be easier with a smaller population, I agree. Not electing dickheads helps too though.

I'm not sure the Scottish version is doing so well, going by some questions the FM fielded the other day.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I doubt that they walked there.

So that means all 300 people travelled on the same couple of coaches. Gotcha.

Still, well done to her. Especially since we don't have that "world class" track and trace system in place which master Boris so efficiently assembled.

 

[blueparrot]

I'm not sure the Scottish version is doing so well, going by some questions the FM fielded the other day.

Doing so well or perfect? Obviously not perfect and in constant need or improving and tweeking. In comparison with the UK version, then I would say it’s doing pretty well.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

They weren’t on buses either, in fact they weren’t all together, nor all from the same place.

Go on then. How many took it home and how can anybody be sure they didn't take it South?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

So that means all 300 people travelled on the same couple of coaches. Gotcha.

Still, well done to her. Especially since we don't have that "world class" track and trace system in place which master Boris so efficiently assembled.

See above.

 

[grunge]

My daughter who is a fit and healthy young women who plays football and goes to the gym nearly every day is absolutely floored with it. Tested positive and in a room on her own at uni and says she has never felt as poorly In her life. Said she can’t imagine what it would do to an older person.

bloody hell!!

This is the thing that a lot of people don’t seem to be realising. A “mild illness” is pretty much anything that doesn’t put you in hospital. A flu they puts you in bed for a week still counts as mild.

So when they say this can give you a mild illness people should be expecting to be bed ridden for a week or so.

Even tho there are a lot of ranges with this one so some people just feel a little off

 

[blueparrot]

Go on then. How many took it home and how can anybody be sure they didn't take it South?

Track and trace working. Plus my daughters involvement in some of the cases I was aware of a problem a few days before the F,M gave us the 300 figure.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

See above.

I don't know what point you're trying to make. Regardless of how easy it is, she's done her job properly by highlighting the issue and making it crystal clear that nobody should be travelling there from Scotland. My point stands that this is at least proactive and doing exactly what she should be doing, yet blue anorak who I originally replied to was (perhaps in jest!) somehow using it as a criticism.

 

[Healdplace]

That MEN story posted above on how Manchester is falling and everywhere else in GM is rising shows the danger of using data that is several days old. Few skim reading the story and headline will notice the small print on the picture pointing out that it dates up to Monday.

It says Stockport is rising for example when its numbers over the days since were 159, 140, 111, 100 and 95 - which is not exactly rising.

I know that the case data compiled after several days of add ons/takeaways used in these lists IS more exact because of redistribution of cases reported from any day to the actual dates of the tests (which can be spread over several days). So it makes a difference. But it does not normally alter the trend and this older data tends to tell you more about the past than the present (for obvious reasons) which is why I dont base tables in here on it.

Both sets of numbers are useful as long as you understand the difference but I have to choose one to post here as having two lists of the GM borough daily cases per town that are from today (or yesterday really) and another dating 4 or 5 days back in time would confuse in here every day.

But if anyone wants to post this other list daily it would be useful as it will show then and now so to speak. And if there are any significant changes caused by the redistribution to actual date of the tests.

The disparity in the two lists with what I call the weekly Pop score explains why the red watch list number is slightly different in that MEN list from the one I posted above. Though generally in the same ballpark overall. That list dates only to 5 days back and uses the actual cases that day after redistrubution. But over a week that will even out as most cases will get redsistributed to a day within that week even if not on the atal day reported.

As the Pop score is only published based on the reported cases each day not after the redistibted cases are calculated days later then using the daily cases pre redistribution is the only way to track it daily afaik.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Did Wee Jimmy K say how many people
Margaret Ferrier had infected in England?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

 

[paulchapo]

Is it time to try another approach? Let a reasonably sized city or town open up fully, no restrictions. Advise the vulnerable to shield and go for it. Let's see what happens, this weird raft of stop start restrictions aren't really achieving nothing but suspicion and resentment.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

No real surprise.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I don't know what point you're trying to make. Regardless of how easy it is, she's done her job properly by highlighting the issue and making it crystal clear that nobody should be travelling there from Scotland. My point stands that this is at least proactive and doing exactly what she should be doing, yet blue anorak who I originally replied to was (perhaps in jest!) somehow using it as a criticism.

Fuck it. I'm not quite sure any of us has the full information to be pulling each other on, anyway. I'm guessing, in reality that the big concern was the old firm heading south to watch the match.
Anyway enjoy your weekend, you too @blueparrot

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

Is it time to try another approach? Let a reasonably sized city or town open up fully, no restrictions. Advise the vulnerable to shield and go for it. Let's see what happens, this weird raft of stop start restrictions aren't really achieving nothing but suspicion and resentment.

Which city should we choose for this experiment? Good luck to all the guinea pigs there. We can all watch on whilst their hospitals get overrun and bodies pile up outside. Laughable