COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

That’s not true tho. When you look at excess deaths you would see a large spike in non covid deaths if they were trying to “hide” it like that but that spike isn’t there.

Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries

In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities

www.economist.com

So maybe its obesity and underlying pulmonary illness that is causing it, with both being linked to higher risk of death due to covid. I understand we have the highest levels of obesity in europe and are near the worst for underlying pulmonary illness aswell. or is it because the NHS isnt as good as nearly every other health care system in the world including tin pot disctatorship states like Russia?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Should be being rolled out within a month to check if people need to have a proper test.

That would be ideal but they aren’t getting regulatory sign off for at least 3 months

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I’ve just listened to a researcher on the news who has developed Covid detection through checking peoples irises. It’s been tested at Oxford John Radcliffe Hospital and they are hoping to get regulatory approval in between 3 and 6 months. The researcher said it would be a very cost effective and faster test (results in a couple of minutes) that would be ideal for schools, airports etc.

More ID invasion then.

 

[blueparrot]

Disagree it becomes even more pointless locking down in areas of low prevelance with the economic damage.

Localised restrictions don’t lockdown areas of low prevalence though.

 

[grunge]

So maybe its obesity and underlying pulmonary illness that is causing it, with both being linked to higher risk of death due to covid. I understand we have the highest levels of obesity in europe and are near the worst for underlying pulmonary illness aswell. or is it because the NHS isnt as good as nearly every other health care system in the world including tin pot disctatorship states like Russia?

Population health could be part of it yep. But from Germany’s point of view i do think the quality of there health system does have a lot to do with it. They have a larger and better funded system, they don’t send people home early to free up beds and have a large chunk of beds set aside ready to cope with really bad Flu seasons.

So my hunch is that when elderly got they were brought in and kept in hospital isolated where as we sent them back to care homes with it. Or not bought into hospitals at all. That way there elderly population were far better protected.


I wouldn’t trust Russia figures at all tho.

 

[ganganvince]

Localised restrictions don’t lockdown areas of low prevalence though.

Think we may be at cross purposes I agree with local lockdown not national

 

[BlueAnorak]

That would be ideal but they aren’t getting regulatory sign off for at least 3 months

Irrelevant.
It can be used now as the equivalent of temperature checking.

 

[Healdplace]

Scottish data delayed for a short while. No explanation why as yet.

But here is the Wales data this week v last week v 2 weeks ago

3 deaths today v 2 deaths v 0 deaths

950 cases today v 467 v 432 - big increase today.

8.0% positive v 2.4% v 4,0%

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths not good for a weekend sadly.

61 with 24 from the North West.

Last week it was 32 with 14 from the NW.

 

[Healdplace]

Details of England hospital deaths,

17 Oct adds 9 = 9 after 1 day. (last Sunday it was 5 added to comparative day)

16 Oct adds 32 = 42 after 2 days (last week 15 were added to the comparative day)

15 Oct adds 10 = 69 after three days (second consecutive 3 day total at 69)

14 Oct adds 0 = 69 after four days

13 Oct adds 2 = 64 after five days, (The last three five day totals have been 64, 66 and 64). - last time that happened is 6,7.8 June)

Other add ons. 3 added to 11 Oct taking total to 72.

Last time any date has had 70 + deaths attributed to it is 10 June.

10 Oct adds 1 = 57, 9 Oct adds 1 = 47, 8 Oct adds 1 = 55, 5 Oct adds 1 = 37, 4 Oct adds 1 = 36

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data is bad again with 5 deaths most in a while.

5 deaths (v 1 last week, 0 wk before)

1012 cases (v 1066 last week v 462 wk before) THough cases very high at least not increasing week to week - so hopefully a plateauing.

Rolling 7 day total record - though - and is 7090 (was 5909 last week).

228 patients (down 3) v 137 last week v 65 wk before.

23 on ventilators (up 1) v 19 last week v 9 wk before.

 

[Healdplace]

The 61 England hospital deaths were aged between 54 and 96.

Four of them (aged 56 to 92) had no previously known underlying health conditions.

 

[kaz7]

i honestly dont get that impression from your posts.

I used to have my own business till i got disabled , it was gut wrenching to have to lose it , i understand only too well , you can start another business ,get another job but you cant come back to life or heal from permanent damage

 

[kaz7]

i dissagree and so does the data.

Source ?

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

The US may be about to go through a Covid resurgence by the looks of it. Rise in cases of 68,000 on Friday (highest single day figure since July) and more notably, a rise in hospitalisations.


And they've not even bothered with any form of test and trace.

 

[kaz7]

Vaccines and November more and more evident when typed in google. Just need to stand firm for a few more months and we will have this under control.

Not so i am afraid , the only people you should !isten to is this guy from the wellcome trust and those running the trials , data is nov/ dec and first quarter for a vaccine for vulnefable and front line workers , be summer before everyone gets it , he also said on sky earlier that some wont respond to the vaccine or wont have it and so get sick so it is not the e d of the virus but one tool a!ong with nhs and various treatments

Stop googling it , you are getting info from sources who are guessing

Also says winter will be really tough and dec 25th is as good as cancelled

Coronavirus: 'More than one vaccine' will be available early in 2021, SAGE scientist says

Christmas will be "tough" this year, Sir Jeremy Farrar warns, but the UK is in a good position with a "portfolio" of vaccines.

news.sky.com

 

[kaz7]

The US may be about to go through a Covid resurgence by the looks of it. Rise in cases of 68,000 on Friday (highest single day figure since July) and more notably, a rise in hospitalisations.


And they've not even bothered with any form of test and trace.

Trump is doing rallies everyday ,all over the country, it was not enough he infected half the white house , he is literally killing people to stay inoffice

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Don't know what's going on with scotland's stats for today.

Showing 316 new cases which absolutely can't and won't be right.

 

[kaz7]

Plans already in place for December roll out, I believe. Might be best giving to the royals first, which might encourage take up amongst the elderly and at risk?

Wrong

 

[Manchester1894]

My wife who's seen her parents 3 times since March (one was at a funeral) is starting to feel the effects of this lockdown. I've been quite resillient and accepted two holidays cancelled were a small sacrifice for our health. I have a sole parent that's part of bubble too so that helps. Christmas might be the overwhelming point for many this Christmas. I really do feel for those that have been seperated for a long time now.

Looking past Christmas what do you need from 2021 to give you hope/lift your spirits?

To see family?
To have a holiday?
To go to the footy?
To sit in a pub with mates?
To get rid of a mask?
To see no deaths for a month?
To see jobs return?