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Wales data week to week

1 death v 4 last wk

626 cases today v 487 last wk.

cases positive today about 6%

Again not a dramatic week to week rise but Sunday data is always a bit tricky to form conclusions around.
 
Prime Minister's Spokesman just cited in the Telegraph as stating that Manchester had 282 confirmed cases on 12 October compared to 89 cases per 100,000 on 28 Sep. Why the mixed data in one comparison?

Cases have tripled amongst the over 60s in past 15 days they say (though not from what to what).

Peak of the wave expected on 2 November but ICU will be full by 28 October.

By Nov 8 all ICU will be Covid patients and by Nov 12 all surgical capacity.

And these are best case estimates.

How accurate is this scary data?

The actual number of cases on 12 October on the Gov site on that day was 333 on the 12th and 401 reported on the 13th from the day before. Neither of which is 282.

The number on the actual date of 12 October after when the cases were allocated to that specific date is not 282 either but 209, 365, 383 over the three dates 11/12/13 October.

So where does the number 282 come from?

And on 27/28/29 September the numbers were 182/119/223 at the start of the rise of student testing numbers that dominated the next week and rise to over 1000 one day then fell back. Which does not seem to square with the 89 cases per 100K as Manchester Pop is around 540,000 - which would make 89 equate to around 490 cases in a week when they had more than that in those 3 days alone.

So where are the government sourcing these numbers? Anyone know as if they have a better source of this I would like to access it every day not the apparently very misleading one given to the public.
Their data manipulation is outrageous as is the fawning media for not calling them out on it. Take the Welsh lockdown and the graph is from their own stats. Doesn’t look hugely overrun with 25 invasive beds occupied compared to 164 in April. Also, a good few patients in there would likely have been in there this year anyway....
Not only that but their ‘case numbers’ include patients suspected of having Covid. 707 beds occupied with suspected or confirmed Covid, 326 with confirmed.

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England hospital deaths another big rise. Recall this is Sunday data nearly always the lowest numbers of the week

76 deaths - 24 from the NW and 25 from Yorkshire.

Last week there were 36 with 14 from the NW. The week before it was 10 - so increased by 760% in 2 weeks.
 
The comms of the govt have been atrocious.

At the weekend were vids and stories of the vaccines being prepared and ready.
assuming This is the case don’t you think the PM would be addressing the nation (either way confirm or deny) . But let’s assume the positive

you think he would be addressing the nation saying we need us

all to follow the new tier rules for one last time and compliance please from all.
together with an update and timeline for the roll out of vaccines To give hope.

in the meantime the public are just left to hope, believe what they want to believe or have no fucking clue.

even if it’s bollox and the vaccines aren’t ready for roll out he should be communicating with us clearly That position .
Still believe there should be a Govt briefing minimum once a week.
 
England hospital deaths details:

18 Oct adds 10 = 10 after one day (last wk it was 7)

17 Oct adds 46 = 55 after two days - most added to a day and highest day 2 number since 3 June.

16 Oct adds 11 = 53 after three days.

15 Oct adds 5 = 74 after four days. Highest four day total since 3 June and highest deaths on any one day since 5 June.

14 Oct adds 2 = 71 after five days. Highest five day total since 7 June.

The other two deaths were one added to 12 October to total 67 and one added to 9 Oct to total 48.
 
A police state lmao drama queen.

what else is it? All the past week has been is ideological warfare to lock down areas of the North and the regions whilst London carries on unchecked, with no consistent data presented to back up the push. Westminster have spent a week trying to bribe local politicians into locking down innocent people when they should spend that much on tackling the cunts who aren't following the current rules.

I'm sick of this shit.
 
The comms of the govt have been atrocious.

At the weekend were vids and stories of the vaccines being prepared and ready.
assuming This is the case don’t you think the PM would be addressing the nation (either way confirm or deny) . But let’s assume the positive

you think he would be addressing the nation saying we need us

all to follow the new tier rules for one last time and compliance please from all.
together with an update and timeline for the roll out of vaccines To give hope.

in the meantime the public are just left to hope, believe what they want to believe or have no fucking clue.

even if it’s bollox and the vaccines aren’t ready for roll out he should be communicating with us clearly That position .
AZ/Oxford vaccine is ready to go, currently scaled to 10s of millions doses. Last I knew >100m ready to go. Trials aren't finished though and you won't be seeing it until they are and the MHRA/FDA have had a look at the data/reg. submission.

People want safe vaccines, this is what it takes.

Highly expect it to get approval Q1/2 '21.
 
AZ/Oxford vaccine is ready to go, currently scaled to 10s of millions doses. Last I knew >100m ready to go. Trials aren't finished though and you won't be seeing it until they are and the MHRA/FDA have had a look at the data/reg. submission.

People want safe vaccines, this is what it takes.

Highly expect it to get approval Q1/2 '21.

it’s ridiculous that the clearest statement of the position is found on bluemoon.

whats so hard about the pm saying the same thing to the nation? Goons
 
Here is my update on the rolling total of England deaths that I do every few days.

The numbers are for the 5 day total (during which most deaths are accumulated) per day across the week shown - with the average deaths per day this gives. And in the second number set beside it the same with cases added on beyond the five day cut off point for deaths as they stand for that date right up to today

Wk 17 - 23 Sep deaths 138 (19.7 per day) //// After add ons 153 (21.9)

Wk 24 - 30 Sep deaths 207 (29.6 per day) //// After add ons 220 (31.4)

Wk 1 - 7 Sep deaths 281 (40.1 per day) //// After add ons 302 (43.1)

Wk 8 - 14 Sep deaths 407 (58.1 per day) //// After add ons 433 (61.9)

The rise week to week was 50% in first week to second , about 36 % second to third week. And has risen again to 45% or so by the past week.

So not sure anything can really be concluded about the trend in the rise in numbers here as yet.
 
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Scottish infections today

133 peopled aged over 65
Including 13 aged over 85

68 in children who are under 15
Including 19 in children under 5

164 in the 15-24 range (figures as a % in this age range seem to be reducing quite a bit if I'm not wrong)

628 in people aged 25-64

The 1 death announced today was in the 75-84 age range.
 
it’s ridiculous that the clearest statement of the position is found on bluemoon.

whats so hard about the pm saying the same thing to the nation? Goons
It's harder for the government. I'm no Boris or current government supporter, but sounding too sure we will have a vaccine ready to go within weeks / months is something that he'd be held hostage to if it doesn't happen. Would also make keeping people onside for any restrictions harder if they thought we'd be okay in a few weeks, when we might not be.
 
it’s ridiculous that the clearest statement of the position is found on bluemoon.

whats so hard about the pm saying the same thing to the nation? Goons
PM doesn't work for AZ, although I'm sure he's being kept abreast of progress (as will all world leaders) he isn't a mouthpiece for the company and most importantly he's not going to favour one vaccine over another.

I completely understand the wider public frustration with what's being perceived as a slow process but we're really doing something unprecedented here. Typically pharmaceutical (/biological) drug development from inception to market is a 10-20 year process and approx. 15B in associated costs.

This one has been funded at cost value by Mr. Trump's chequebook via the aptly named 'Operation Warp Speed'.
 
It's harder for the government. I'm no Boris or current government supporter, but sounding too sure we will have a vaccine ready to go within weeks / months is something that he'd be held hostage to if it doesn't happen. Would also make keeping people onside for any restrictions harder if they thought we'd be okay in a few weeks, when we might not be.
I agree with that. He’s already made too many promises that didn’t come to fruition. A promised vaccine that didn’t materialise would be the final straw.
 
AZ/Oxford vaccine is ready to go, currently scaled to 10s of millions doses. Last I knew >100m ready to go. Trials aren't finished though and you won't be seeing it until they are and the MHRA/FDA have had a look at the data/reg. submission.

People want safe vaccines, this is what it takes.

Highly expect it to get approval Q1/2 '21.
JVT and the Prof from the Wellcome foundation were also making positive noises about a vaccine - which is good news because they are serious punters.
My conclusion is that they must have some insider knowledge that the phase 3 trials are going well for at least one of the11 vaccines currently undergoing evaluation at this stage. If not then they are just guessing or being optimistic that at least one succesfull vaccine will emerge.
You stated that the AZ/Oxford vaccine is ready to go.
Serious question - how do you know this or are you just making the same assumptions as I am?
 
I agree with that. He’s already made too many promises that didn’t come to fruition. A promised vaccine that didn’t materialise would be the final straw.
I'd also not wish for my political magnus opus to be my very worst Michael Fish impression of gargantuan proportions.
 
JVT and the Prof from the Wellcome foundation were also making positive noises about a vaccine - which is good news because they are serious punters.
My conclusion is that they must have some insider knowledge that the phase 3 trials are going well for at least one of the11 vaccines currently undergoing evaluation at this stage. If not then they are just guessing or being optimistic that at least one succesfull vaccine will emerge.
You stated that the AZ/Oxford vaccine is ready to go.
Serious question - how do you know this or are you just making the same assumptions as I am?
I work for AZ.

Not trying to be a WUM, I've 'lurked' here for many years without signing up but I felt compelled to make an account recently. Believe me or not, I'm trying to share what I can to ease peoples' minds - I appreciate the low post count/new account will draw scepticism. If I can answer anything without jeopardising my own position I'll try to, but this is massively under NDA and as a result I won't be putting myself at risk. This is taken extremely seriously from top to bottom.
 
Finally Northern Ireland data, which is sadly not good again.

6 deaths v 3 last wk v 0 wk before


820 Cases v 877 last wk v 616 wk before - which is a pretty good trend thankfully.

The 7 day total fell slightly to 7056 with the numbers in age ranges

1100 (0 - 19), 2802 (20 - 39), 2071 (40 - 59), 861 (60 - 79) and 222 over 70. That high number is why deaths are rising.

Hospital patients up 33 in day to 261 v 140 last wk v 64 wk before

On ventilators 25 - up 2 in day v 15 last wk and 8 the wk before.
 
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