So what's the answer to my question?
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The regions that Burnham is mayor of...
Gaylord du Bois
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He was elected Mayor of Greater Manchester in May 2017. Is it a question of semantics as to whether you call the parts that make up GM a region, councils, areas, boroughs etc. Question still stands though. is the rate in the area that Burnham is Mayor of going up or down
no i'm not just looking at Manchester. I grant you the MSOAs present a problem due to the perceived privacy issues, which become increasingly problematic as you get less and less cases, just like the SW. I would argue that this data is perhaps getting into murky territory at that level of geography anyway due to people's mobility but i suppose that's just my opinion. I had a quick look at the week 28th Sep to 4th Oct (Week 41) and the SW region total is the same as the totals for 14 UTLAs and the same as the total for 27 LTLAs (this is cases). The 350 MSOAs sum to 15% less, and this isn't helpful, but the gap can be nearly closed by randomly assigning 0, 1 or 2 to those areas with suppressed numbers. The latter is far from ideal but how helpful is data when the cases are less than 3 in an area ~5 to 8,000 people?.
grunge
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there is no right answer to be honest.
in Manchester ( Not Greater Manchester ) there is a bit of downward trend. but that just means the number of infections is slowing, so we're still increasing but slower than elsewhere.
but in Salford its actively increasing in speed as it is in Rochdale.
So both are "right" in the sense that they are cherry picking data.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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No deal with the Eu now no deal with Manchester on financial packages. I see a trend with this government.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Let’s assume the government are right and the entirety of the greater Manchester ITU service will be ‘overwhelmed’ by the first week in November (it has been completely full on multiple occasions in the past and I don’t remember such concern), do they not know the timeline of this virus? As if lockdown on October 20th will have any impact on ICU admissions in the first week in November. In fact, the only way ICU admissions can be reduced by then is if infections are already falling.....
Of course, if the SAGE modellers and the government ministers have known the ITUs would be overwhelmed by the first week in November they should have imposed their lockdown in September.
Of course, if the SAGE modellers and the government ministers have known the ITUs would be overwhelmed by the first week in November they should have imposed their lockdown in September.
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The Light Was Yellow Sir
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It’s also telling that the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Nottingham are currently hugely outstripping Manchester in infection rate but no suggestion of tier 2 or 3. Mind you, they’ve got MPs in the cabinet, whereas there are none from the North West or the North East!
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