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Elbow beards said:
What chance do we have when people like this exist.

Survey uncovers widespread belief in 'dangerous' Covid conspiracy theories | Coronavirus | The Guardian

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Frightening just how many people believe these conspiracy theories and while the percentages in each country vary, they’re all significantly high regardless of creed or colour. Social media has definitely played a part for me in terms of the increase in numbers of people who buy into this kind of thing.

Regarding Covid-19, I’ve been saying for months that it’s the ultimate wet dream for conspiracy theorists. Now not all conspiracy theories are dangerous - saying the moon landings were faked, for example, might draw a few sniggers but it doesn’t do anyone any harm in the grand scheme of things and isn’t going to maim or kill people - but some of the lies and misinformation being peddled about this virus can most definitely cause harm, insofar as it may convince people to stop following guidelines and therefore increase their chances of catching and/or spreading the virus. I’ve mentioned the local conspiracy theorist on here in the past, but now I’ve got a long-standing mate spamming me with some of the wilder theories. One being that it’s part of a new world order so as to oppress us and turn us into a communist country. Another is that there is a near 400 page dossier of draconian Covid laws passed by the UK government in March. One of the more extreme laws is that if you refuse a vaccine then they can take everything off you - your house, savings, pension, etc! Now how that one slipped under the radar and got through parliament without anyone in opposition voicing their dissatisfaction is beyond me! I honestly can’t believe some of the stuff I’m hearing, yet when I challenge it and try and point out how far-fetched it all is, I get told to stop taking the piss!
 
The 207 England hospital deaths were aged between 36 and 101.

All but 6 (aged between 60 and 93) had known underlying health conditions.
 
Cases up again to 22,885 (up 1995 on yesterday) and all settings deaths a very worrying 367.

Incidentally - at 20,000 or so cases a day the UK will reach one million Covid cases by the end of this week.
 
This country is at a tipping point-in the spring the majority followed the govt's advice-it seems over time more and more people are turning against it-Cummings effect, eat out campaign, now the FSM fiasco. Quite how Dido harding still has a job I'll never understand...and its not even winter yet.
 
Healdplace said:
Cases up again to 22,885 (up 1995 on yesterday) and all settings deaths a very worrying 367.

Incidentally - at 20,000 or so cases a day the UK will reach one million Covid cases by the end of this week.
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Think I read that in France they reckon they’re having around 100,000 cases per day; it’s just that half of that number are discovered through testing.
 
The regional scoreboard gloomy news for the North West again sadly.

England I fear has missed the boat yet again in stemming this increase and Scotland, Wales and Ireland are going to get a reasonable Christmas whilst we will be in a big mess by then.

Really hope the government are right and I am wrong but getting increasingly less confident.

England is the primary cause of today's case rise. Still escalating whilst the other nations starting to see some control.
 
Healdplace said:
Cases up again to 22,885 (up 1995 on yesterday) and all settings deaths a very worrying 367.

Incidentally - at 20,000 or so cases a day the UK will reach one million Covid cases by the end of this week.
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Cases seem to be possibly leveling off at arround 20 to 23k a day?
 
London 2019 - up from 1787

Midlands 2228 - up from 2170

North East 1162 - up from 970

Yorkshire 3568 - up from 3000

And North West 5322 - up from 4724. Biggest rise and second worst number in last month.
 
bert38 said:
This country is at a tipping point-in the spring the majority followed the govt's advice-it seems over time more and more people are turning against it-Cummings effect, eat out campaign, now the FSM fiasco. Quite how Dido harding still has a job I'll never understand...and its not even winter yet.
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Im not defending Harding etc but most european countries must have a similar person and government in charge as they all seem to be experiencing a huge second surge like we are??
 
We need to stop pissing about with this tier nonsense and have a proper lockdown for four weeks. It's obvious that the restrictions in the NW haven't worked given they have been in force for a long time (tier 2 now 3). People are ignoring most of what is required to do and cartying on with life. Both my neighbours have today had friends / family members in their house and have done throughout. It's a shame that the virus to select the ignorant selfish twats amongst us and take them out of society and let the decent ones get back to normality
 
Seeing as its been discussed a bit recently, this could be of interest. a discussion about masks, what they do, what they dont do and what not to make them of!.

 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Im not defending Harding etc but most european countries must have a similar person and government in charge as they all seem to be experiencing a huge second surge like we are??
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Perhaps it's just a very difficult thing to control for any government ? Most if not all seem to be following similar rules, and it's not helping much anywhere, the only thing that really works is a lockdown, and no economy can actually support that.

It seems that getting people to follow sensible rules is very difficult, as most of us want to push the limits one way or another.
 
Sadly I think this was the worst day ever for Greater Manchester. Utterly terrible numbers.

It looks now like a big mistake to have spent two weeks arguing over lockdown measures let alone whether these rules are actually helping much yet. Things have gone from bad to worse ever since.

Today only 2 of the boroughs are under 200 cases. And even Trafford who is one of them set a new record high.
 
There is only one way to stop this virus from getting worse in every European country. That is a total European wife shut down. The only thing that can move is either food or medical supplies.
 
GM total is up over 200 to 2606 - its worst ever number as I feared. Almost double where we were 10 days ago.

The percentage of the NW is down at 49% (it was 35% those 10 days ago) but only as other areas in the NW were high too. Though not to the same degree as GM.

But over 11% of all cases in the UK today were in the ten boroughs.
 
Healdplace said:
So a really disturbing UK hospital death total today of 252. A number we have not seen since 5 June.

Last week it was 162. Week before 106. Week before 53.

That is a rise of 100% v 51% v 55%. Less promising.

Though deaths as I keep stressing will be the last numbers to change.

And England are the biggest contributor to this rise.
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Sky reporting 367 UK deaths.
Is this all settings?
 
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