Keir Starmer

His donors have him by the bollox I reckon.

Or he is thinking the remain extremists will back him.
How on earth can anyone be a remain extremist now? I’m not dismissing your point, they are there, but attaching yourself to them is like jumping off a cliff hand in hand with someone intent on suicide. Remain has gone, for good, surely he’s not that daft.
 
Tories are safe for at least 10 years with Keith doing what his told and happy to attack without ever having the responsibility of power like a substantial majority of the PLP behind him.

Looks like the the new breed have been neutered to do as their told as well.
I posted a long time ago that i thought the referendum was an Osborne masterstroke not only because it would help solve the problem of the EU and UKIP for the Tories but because it would split Labour too along its old traditional fault lines on the EU. Labour should have backed brexit from the off, as soon as it didnt it was finished as a party and now it may as well pack it bags, close down its offices and accept that the Tories will now be in power for a generation. The UK is now almost a one party state, labour has managed to piss off the left and now Starmer has also managed to piss off the right. It takes a special kind of Labour leader to piss off both wings of the party.

Everything that has happened from Ed Milliband's bacon butty moment to the culture wars to the accusations of antisemitism that helped cause Corbyn's downfall has all been about what's happened today. It has been a typically ruthless piece of Tory machination and they will be celebrating tonight. It is a long hard road back for the left, but i think it is probably a harder road for the centrists as the left can still cling to the notion that leaving albeit with a deal makes a Socialist state easier to achieve, although it would have been a lot easier with no deal. The bigger question is where do the moderate centrists go from here, they of course have the Lib Dems who will carry on being pro EU as there Orange Book faction love neo-liberalism, the moderates that are left are now as politically homeless as the Socialist left and the Labour party is fucked.

Welcome to ultra neo-liberalism on speed, unfettered capitalism, rising inequality, the possible break up of the Union and it is all on the toes of those moderate FBFE clowns who refused to accept democracy and made it impossible for Labour to support leave.

As the famous headline once said and i paraphrase.

Will the last person to leave the party please turn off the lights
 
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What a difference.

Listening to him now, he’s a PM in waiting.
He will be waiting a long time
Another of the new breed of British politicians, no charisma, no policies, spineless and sits on the fence.
The opposition parties of old would be tearing into the government over the pandemic and Brexit.
 
He will be waiting a long time
Another of the new breed of British politicians, no charisma, no policies, spineless and sits on the fence.
The opposition parties of old would be tearing into the government over the pandemic and Brexit.
He’s making himself hard to beat.

He’s professional and waits for the right time to hammer the government.

Just listening to him makes me want to vote for him, there’s nothing snide about him, which cannot be said for other front line politicians over the last few years.

His biggest problem is those he’s leading in the party, there’s something that stinks in the Labour Party and I’m not just talking about antisemitism.

Starmer is the perfect antidote of integrity to the shite served up recently.
 
You ok?
Mentored by the best, Tony Benn. I have no idea what starmer stands for, I do know he just wants to appeal to the plastic labour voters, not for me.
If people want to vote for an empty vessel then it says much about them, sad really
 
You ok?
Mentored by the best, Tony Benn. I have no idea what starmer stands for, I do know he just wants to appeal to the plastic labour voters, not for me.
If people want to vote for an empty vessel then it says much about them, sad really
Whats a plastic labour voter? Is it the ones that decide whether we get get a tory or a labour government. If it is think appealing to them is quite important.
 
You ok?
Mentored by the best, Tony Benn. I have no idea what starmer stands for, I do know he just wants to appeal to the plastic labour voters, not for me.
If people want to vote for an empty vessel then it says much about them, sad really
Jeremy Corbyn delivered Labour the worst election result since before the Second World War.

He was absolutely brilliant... at turning Labour’s heartlands and Jewish members completely against them and into the arms of the Tories.

I don’t care if he was mentored by John the Baptist, he was atrocious.

Starmer has a far better chance as he’s a credible candidate.
 
Jeremy Corbyn delivered Labour the worst election result since before the Second World War.

He was absolutely brilliant... at turning Labour’s heartlands and Jewish members completely against them and into the arms of the Tories.

I don’t care if he was mentored by John the Baptist, he was atrocious.

Starmer has a far better chance as he’s a credible candidate.
As it stands Starmer hasn't said we're he stands on anything but he does present himself as professional but Ashworth apart were is his team?
 
As it stands Starmer hasn't said we're he stands on anything but he does present himself as professional but Ashworth apart were is his team?
He was pretty clear in his press conference today.

The deal wasn’t as good as remaining but better than no deal.

What do you mean? There’s a list of them on that page.
 
He was pretty clear in his press conference today.

The deal wasn’t as good as remaining but better than no deal.

What do you mean? There’s a list of them on that page.
I mean that squad is very weak
 
Whats a plastic labour voter? Is it the ones that decide whether we get get a tory or a labour government. If it is think appealing to them is quite important.
Who is he trying to appeal to though.

He has purged the left and alienated the moderates. The party has a real problem as its voting base is two distinct entities. It has the support of the metro liberals in the big cities, but sacrificed the traditional small c social conservatives in the red wall. It was why Labour was so ambigous over Brexit, it could not possibly appeal to both entities as it stood. It ended up losing the red wall but consolidating the metropolitan vote.

There is also the fall out from the disgraceful behaviour of the staffers at Party HQ to come. There actions in destroying the chance of a Labour victory in the election before last will have reverberations across the party that could be catastrophic. They are the ones to blame for this Johnson shit show as they actively worked against the party they were paid to serve. The enquiry if it ever sees the light of day could well destroy Starmer especially if it shows he was one of the active plotters against his own party. Notice how Watson has all but disappeared as he is rumoured to be one of the major players behind it. If it does get really dirty and the Labour party love to throw dirt about then its game over.

There is a hell of a lot more dirty washing to be aired yet and i actually feel sorry for Starmer, he has the LOTO job at possibly the worst time in the parties history but he hasn't helped himself with some of the decisions he has made. He may well appeal to voters the party need to win to gain power, but he is gaining those votes at the expense of others that he also needs to gain power. He is stuck, he has nowhere to go without risking alienating even more parts of the party. Just recently a large number of Jewish Socialists were purged from the party, i posted about it but it was mostly ignored, he is facing calls from Muslim members that the party is unwelcoming to them, he has Rayner threatening to suspend thousands of members and a Chairman who Starmer picked who is proving to be possibly the most authoritarian in the parties history. Membership has fallen by as much as 50% and there does not appear any coherent plan other than to abstain and lick Johnsons arse. Even on BREXIT now as much as I am in favour of it, Starmer should have opposed it, because he didn't support it in the first place and to wave it through now looks hypocritical.

And finally we had Rayner the other day literally begging on twitter for people to campaign, to deliver the leaflets and all backed up by a ridiculous photoshop of Corbyn rally. Reality is hitting home, they know they have lost many of the people who did the hard yards and they have no replacements, the party sadly is fucked. It breaks my heart to see it in such a sorry state and I honestly do not see a way back for the party for a generation and that is of the party survives at all.
 
Just read on twitter that Starmer is a secret brexiteer and the person tweeting said that he it on good authority that Keith voted leave in the referendum. I cant see it myself but the bonus will be.......

The FBFE mob will be furious.
 

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