Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
27 are now dead in Belgium in that care home I mentioned the other day where an unaware but then already infected Santa visited them as a treat on 5 December.

Turned out to be a super spreader.

What a tragic tale of why we should never have sanctioned a normal Christmas Day as that will have happened to families all over the UK but the consequences of it are two or three weeks away from being realised.
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I’m sorry to disagree with you but I think you are wrong.
The Belgian care home case has absolutely nothing to do with lock down or people seeing their families. It is purely and simply down to criminal negligence by a care home owner/manager who thought it would be a good idea to let someone outside their ’bubble’ to enter the home. That anyone would think that to be in the least bit sensible wants stringing up.

Clearly some people, not you, don’t consider for one minute what they are actually dealing with.
 
I don’t agree with Unions applying political pressure at all.

But surely schools should be closed for the rest of January at least, just seems like common sense
 
squirtyflower said:
I’m sorry to disagree with you but I think you are wrong.
The Belgian care home case has absolutely nothing to do with lock down or people seeing their families. It is purely and simply down to criminal negligence by a care home owner/manager who thought it would be a good idea to let someone outside their ’bubble’ to enter the home. That anyone would think that to be in the least bit sensible wants stringing up.

Clearly some people, not you, don’t consider for one minute what they are actually dealing with.
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You’d think by now anyone who’s elderly would realise that Santa isn’t real anyway.
 
kaz7 said:
Cant help but think closing primaries is a red herring , it is older kids and uni driving infections and surely we learnt from sending them back , seems not
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cant be avoided in many cases, as has been explained to you many times Kaz, it is simply not possible to do everything online.
 
artfuldodger said:
My personal experience is most of my family and friends had a quiet, limited Christmas. A few broke the rules and did Boxing Day instead (as that’s what they had planned). However, with children aged between 18 and 30, nieces and nephews of the same age, I don’t feel so optimistic about NYE. My son was working, but most of his friend were at parties. A lot of his mates who are at uni went back to their student accommodation for get togethers. I went running with a teacher friend this afternoon and her late-teenage kids were all at parties.
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wonder what they get taught in their formative years.
 
kaz7 said:
Batches of the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine have started arriving at UK hospitals ahead of the jab's nationwide roll-out.

Some 530,000 doses of the treatment will be available for roll-out across the UK from Monday, with vulnerable groups already identified as the priority for immunisation.

news.sky.com

COVID-19: Batches of Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine arrive at UK hospitals ahead of roll-out

More than half a million doses of the treatment will be available from Monday, with vulnerable groups prioritised.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Its taken 4 days to deliver vaccines, utterly bizzare? Should have used Amazon Prime.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
You’d think by now anyone who’s elderly would realise that Santa isn’t real anyway.
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It's the old life cycle, first thing kids learn is how not to shit themselves, by old age a big ambition is not to shit themselves. Tell old people in a home that Santa is here and they will lap it up! My Gran in her later years used to watch cartoons and when one of the characters fell off a cliff she'd say "bloody hell I bet that hurt", she really did mean it as well.
 
Anyone see the tweet fro the Doctor Association U.K.?
Presumably related to that other lone Doctor tweet re the administration of the single dose ‘fracas’.

I’m hoping those that ‘really’ know what they’re doing have it right.
There’s been too many opinions from ‘Doctors’ not really specialising the the epidemiology field.
Causing more negativity & fuel for the anti vaxxers...
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
cant be avoided in many cases, as has been explained to you many times Kaz, it is simply not possible to do everything online.
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January is the second biggest exam season of the academic year. Students have to be in to sit the exams.
 
squirtyflower said:
I’m sorry to disagree with you but I think you are wrong.
The Belgian care home case has absolutely nothing to do with lock down or people seeing their families. It is purely and simply down to criminal negligence by a care home owner/manager who thought it would be a good idea to let someone outside their ’bubble’ to enter the home. That anyone would think that to be in the least bit sensible wants stringing up.

Clearly some people, not you, don’t consider for one minute what they are actually dealing with.
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No problem with you disagreeing. So no need for an apology.

My point was that a person who had no idea he had the virus mixed with people who were especially vulnerable.

Yes that was a very dumb thing for the care home to have allowed.

But it will be the situation many young family members were in this Christmas when visiting older relatives over Christmas/ New Year.

No clue they had it. Unlikely to get tested just in case unless they were very wise children or grandchildren looking at it as a necessary precaution and able to get one there and back at the last minute as most expected it to be axed even a few days ahead of Christmas.

Most will thankfully have had no consequences, But only one of those people there for an hour or two needs to have had the asymptomatic stage of the new variant and a week or two on things could unravel very fast. There will inevitably be tragedies like this coming to the fore in the weeks ahead.
 
can't be doing with all this cynicism anymore about it. I just have to believe it will work and keep the hope and faith in decent people doing the right thing where it counts, and if it doesn't and I end up dead, well I won't care because I'll be dead.

Embracing your mortality and trying to build positive moments as frequently as possible is just the way I want to go with this now.
 
blueparrot said:
I’m not convinced Christmas Day will be the big spreader a lot think. Most families I know only seemed to see grandparents if anyone from outside their households, and then only for a few hours with precautions. There doesn’t seem to much meeting through the rest of the holiday period.
I’m sure there were instances of bad behaviour, however I wonder if that will be counter balanced by most of us off work, and schools on holiday. Pubs and restaurants in most places shut except takeaway.
Not saying there won’t be Christmas spread, just not sure we will see it as a big rise from where we are with cases from the last few weeks.
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I know loads of family’s that mixed Xmas day. I’d be amazed if it didn’t have a huge impact for next weeks numbers.
 
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