Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Bob Hope said:
Didn't know where to put this but seeing that it's covid related I'll post it here.

This morning one of my best mates has died of this horrible disease.
He was just 50 years of age.
We both went together to watch City for many years and was together when we won our first trophy in 35 years in the f.a.cup final.
R.I.P. my friend Ste.
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very sad news, sorry to hear
 
Bob Hope said:
Didn't know where to put this but seeing that it's covid related I'll post it here.

This morning one of my best mates has died of this horrible disease.
He was just 50 years of age.
We both went together to watch City for many years and was together when we won our first trophy in 35 years in the f.a.cup final.
R.I.P. my friend Ste.
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Sorry to hear this, sad news.
 
My mate said this morning, if you don't NEED to be at work and you get caught its the employee who pays the £200 fine not the employer? Surely that can't be right?

"Those without a 'reasonable excuse' - including those who are working outside when its not essential- can be slapped with a £200 fine."
 
ayrshire_blue said:
There's something I don't get regarding the new variant. They've found isolated cases of it in various EU countries, but for some reason it's not spread there anything like it has over here. It sounds as though they've been really really lucky and managed to catch the only very few cases withinn these other countries before it's spread any further, which seems unlikely given how transmissible we're told it is.

Even with the banning of UK flights etc, surely the chances are it was too late and already spreading, but we're not seeing that in daily figures at all?
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Also in the states and apparently in people who havent travelled. Cant figure why it isnt having the same impact in other countries
www.irishtimes.com

Coronavirus: UK variant discovered in US in man with no travel history

World wrap: China gives approval to vaccine developed by state-owned company
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I was speaking to a friend who works in the NHS yesterday. We talked about this and he said that the NHS is just not geared up to work like that, it is litterally too weighed down in bureaucracy and proceedures to allow it to roll out such a radical vaccination plan.
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Totally agree.
The army should have been running the countries Covid response from the start with NHS and PHE teams being assigned to do work for it.
This is a war. Do it property.
 
artfuldodger said:
Also in the states and apparently in people who havent travelled. Cant figure why it isnt having the same impact in other countries
www.irishtimes.com

Coronavirus: UK variant discovered in US in man with no travel history

World wrap: China gives approval to vaccine developed by state-owned company
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com
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Yeah that's what's puzzling me. Figures seem at least stable everywhere else, I'd have expected it to be sky rocketing like us by now. It's just really hard to believe they've managed to catch every case early enough and take the necessary measures with it and it's not already going through communities.
 
Putting aside the shenanigans of the last 24 hours we now have to get the vaccine rolled out ASAP.
I read this morning we are way ahead of other European countries in doing this.
There are some risks in going first but they are definitely worth taking and as a critic so far of the Government's handling of the pandemic it is only right that they should be given credit for getting the vaccination show on the road.
 
bugsyblue said:
Of course a huge medical organisation is going to have red tape. One error and the organisation gets sued. It’s people’s health so there has to be checks.

Despite all that we are ahead of all other western countries in our vaccination programme. The NHS has done a phenomenal job to roll it out as quickly as they have. It’s true now though they need help to hit targets. I hope we find a way to allow dentists or even medical professionals in the army to assist. The sad truth though is a lot of other medical ailments are having to be put on hold to tackle the pandemic.
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One was ‘convict resolution’, another was ‘fire safety’, there were others equally defunct.
 
squirtyflower said:
One was ‘convict resolution’, another was ‘fire safety’, there were others equally defunct.
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The checklist to become an NHS vaccinator​

Recognising and managing anaphylaxis
Resuscitation, level 2
Safeguarding adults, level 2
Safeguarding children, level 2
Vaccine administration
Vaccine storage
Health, Safety and Welfare, level 1
Infection Prevention and control, level 2
Introduction to Anaphylaxis
Legal aspects of vaccination
Moving and Handling, level 1
Preventing radicalisation, level 1
Conflict resolution, level 1
Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators
Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine)
Data security awareness, level 1
Equality, Diversity and Human rights, level 1
Fire safety, level 1
 
artfuldodger said:

The checklist to become an NHS vaccinator​

Recognising and managing anaphylaxis
Resuscitation, level 2
Safeguarding adults, level 2
Safeguarding children, level 2
Vaccine administration
Vaccine storage
Health, Safety and Welfare, level 1
Infection Prevention and control, level 2
Introduction to Anaphylaxis
Legal aspects of vaccination
Moving and Handling, level 1
Preventing radicalisation, level 1
Conflict resolution, level 1
Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators
Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine)
Data security awareness, level 1
Equality, Diversity and Human rights, level 1
Fire safety, level 1
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Some spurious ones there which hardly prevent the safe procedure of vaccinations an 85 year old.
 
artfuldodger said:

The checklist to become an NHS vaccinator​

Recognising and managing anaphylaxis
Resuscitation, level 2
Safeguarding adults, level 2
Safeguarding children, level 2
Vaccine administration
Vaccine storage
Health, Safety and Welfare, level 1
Infection Prevention and control, level 2
Introduction to Anaphylaxis
Legal aspects of vaccination
Moving and Handling, level 1
Preventing radicalisation, level 1
Conflict resolution, level 1
Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators
Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine)
Data security awareness, level 1
Equality, Diversity and Human rights, level 1
Fire safety, level 1
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Vaccine specific requirements aside the rest is basic mandatory training required for anyone working in the NHS. Takes about half a day to complete, mostly online and the time taken to complete is paid for. What’s the issue?
 
artfuldodger said:

The checklist to become an NHS vaccinator​

Recognising and managing anaphylaxis
Resuscitation, level 2
Safeguarding adults, level 2
Safeguarding children, level 2
Vaccine administration
Vaccine storage
Health, Safety and Welfare, level 1
Infection Prevention and control, level 2
Introduction to Anaphylaxis
Legal aspects of vaccination
Moving and Handling, level 1
Preventing radicalisation, level 1
Conflict resolution, level 1
Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators
Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine)
Data security awareness, level 1
Equality, Diversity and Human rights, level 1
Fire safety, level 1
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Ffs, bureaucracy alive and well in the NHS
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Yeah that's what's puzzling me. Figures seem at least stable everywhere else, I'd have expected it to be sky rocketing like us by now. It's just really hard to believe they've managed to catch every case early enough and take the necessary measures with it and it's not already going through communities.
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They don't test anywhere near as many as we do I would guess a couple of weeks down the line we could see hospitalisations increase across Europe.
 
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