Coronavirus (2021) thread

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As I said at the time DHSC, PHE and NHS management are incompetent. I've tried to deliver IT systems to these fuckers and they are clueless cretins. If they told me it was Tuesday, I'd check.

the NHS at the time said the gov specifically said they didn’t want to use NHS labs. Decision was Nowt to do with PHE/NHS.

either way. Could have been in an infinity better position now if we had listened to the WHO when they said test test test.
 
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Martin Kenyon, who received his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine went viral, is one of a few people to have received their second dose.

The 91-year-old was one of the first in the world to receive the jab - after simply calling Guys' Hospital in South London and requesting an appointment slot.

 
So, 1 in 50 they say, there will be regional varriations no doubt but seriously expect that figure to become 1 in 5 before any vaccination reward kicks in, to late im afraid.as soon as this new strain was found it should have been lockdown then
And yet vocational exams are being made to go ahead over the next few weeks. I’m going to be in close contact with just over 200 different 16-18 year olds over the next month or so. Mental!
 
Martin Kenyon, who received his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine went viral, is one of a few people to have received their second dose.

The 91-year-old was one of the first in the world to receive the jab - after simply calling Guys' Hospital in South London and requesting an appointment slot.

My father-in-law had his second jab today as per his original appointment, my mum is due her’s on Sunday and I’m hoping she doesn’t get rearranged before then but she’s not heard anything as yet.
 
You know, among all the shit this pandemic has caused, the one recurring thought I have at random times is how the fuck the Chinese have not been held to account for this as yet. I hope that day arrives at some point soon.
I've written to my MP to demand country of origin to be available as a filter on UK ecommerce web sites. I don't want to buy ANYTHING from them.
 
Vaccination is getting to herd immunity.
That's still only 50% by mid Feb.

Yes of course. I guess my point really is that it should have an impact on numbers soon, not cos of the threshold, more cos of the kind of person who it can reach. I think its fair to say that a big majority of the ones getting it right now are simply more likely to get by the very nature of how they live and what they do. Those who work in public facing jobs etc, or those being a bit less cautious with the rules/hygiene.

Eventually those people will have been hit, the easy tinder to light so to speak, and there will be less of that easy tinder available for the virus. You can only presume that rest who haven't had it are either lucky, which will be a lot admittedly, or most likely (the majority of this bunch i'd guess) just relatively hard to reach for the virus given lots are working from home, washing hands and sticking to the rules pretty much down to a tee. I'd wager that's still a pretty big chunk of the country.

So in theory it should hopefully slow down if its burning through those currently more susceptible (through lifestyle) given that getting it to the next bunch of people isn't as easy as they're a bit more hidden away. I think we forget that it can't necessarily reach everyone at the same speed because some are just more much statistically less likely to get it. Home workers etc. The first 25% will be the ones more likely to get it, the next 20% should be a bit harder, and the final chunk even harder after that. Each time the spread should thin out in theory... Hopefully if this is the case it should slow down and buy us some time for vaccines.
 
Not really, i think its because the post is undeniably missing the entire point. Those actions haven't curbed the virus, therefore you think they are pointless and its all just a massive testing error.

Firstly if its not stopping with restrictions, then common sense tell's you that people are not sticking to the rules, or that the rules do not go far enough.

Even the worst cases only shown up in around 60 false negatives per 100,000 so even with that we are prob getting around a 150 false positives a day, Considering the numbers, it insanity to say the PCR test is a lie. Its classed as the go to Gold standard's for testing globally.

If all these false negatives and healthy people classed as sick, like you day. Then why are the hospital numbers going through the roof. its a really inconvenient truth to your whole argument. If the tests dog shit, and sick people are healthy ? you are actually saying that !!! then why are the hospitals freaking out and we are almost, and im certain will exceed 1000 deaths a day ? Its a very odd point of view to be honest
He’ll probably come back and say the fatality numbers are bollocks and people are faking their own deaths - including Pep Guardiola’s mum - or something.

Anyway, in light of what he posted I’m off to tell one of my best mates that he’s got nothing to worry about. He tested positive over Christmas, is way fitter than me, and yet it’s completely floored him. Now his wife and 2 of his 3 kids have it, one of whom (his son) has Cardiofaciocutaneous (CFC) Syndrome which is an ultra-rare genetic disorder with less than 1000 confirmed cases in children worldwide. Due to his condition, my mate was somewhat understandably shitting it that his son would catch it but I’ll let him know that it’s all good and it’s a false positive.
 
You know, among all the shit this pandemic has caused, the one recurring thought I have at random times is how the fuck the Chinese have not been held to account for this as yet. I hope that day arrives at some point soon.
I hope there’s a full investigation and a report on their animal husbandry.

This is about the third, fourth?, outbreak that’s come from China over recent decades. And flu seasons all start there before spreading worldwide.

A new strain of swine flu has just cropped up there in the last few months.
 
Yes of course. I guess my point really is that it should have an impact on numbers soon, not cos of the threshold, more cos of the kind of person who it can reach. I think its fair to say that a big majority of the ones getting it right now are simply more likely to get by the very nature of how they live and what they do. Those who work in public facing jobs etc, or those being a bit less cautious with the rules/hygiene.

Eventually those people will have been hit, the easy tinder to light so to speak, and there will be less of that easy tinder available for the virus. You can only presume that rest who haven't had it are either lucky, which will be a lot admittedly, or most likely (the majority of this bunch i'd guess) just relatively hard to reach for the virus given lots are working from home, washing hands and sticking to the rules pretty much down to a tee. I'd wager that's still a pretty big chunk of the country.

So in theory it should hopefully slow down if its burning through those currently more susceptible (through lifestyle) given that getting it to the next bunch of people isn't as easy as they're a bit more hidden away. I think we forget that it can't necessarily reach everyone at the same speed because some are just more much statistically less likely to get it. Home workers etc. The first 25% will be the ones more likely to get it, the next 20% should be a bit harder, and the final chunk even harder after that. Each time the spread should thin out in theory... Hopefully if this is the case it should slow down and buy us some time for vaccines.
Undoubtably - Covid deaths in the over 85s are a large part of the total.
 
Cases in Spain starting to escalate.
Had conversation with my brother in Sweden yesterday about the new variant and escalating cases, he was busy gloating about still being able to play golf. He couldn’t understand why we were the only country with this huge escalation. Wait and see was my simple reply.
 
Greater Manchester Scoreboard

Total 1162 - down from 1742. 22% (lowest ever) of NW total of 5274.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY:- 625 v 793 v 1404 v 1152 TODAY



Manchester 237 cases - down from 343. Total 37, 208. Weekly 1850. Pop score up 43 to 6730. Weekly Pop down 10 to 331.

Stockport 156 cases - down from 191, Total 13, 471. Weekly 1097. Still rising day to day. Pop score up 52 to 4591. Weekly Pop down 2 to 375.

Wigan 137 cases - down big from 261. Total 20, 299. Weekly 1327. Pop score up 41 to 6176. Weekly Pop down 2 to 405.

Salford 122 cases - down from 154. Total 16, 029. Weekly 837. Pop score up 47 to 6193. Weekly Pop up 5 to 321.

Bury 106 cases - up from 105. Total 12, 192. Weekly. 662. Pop score up 56 to 6384. Biggest GM rise today. Weekly Pop down 4 to 357.

Bolton 103 cases - down from 145. Total 17, 822. Weekly 848. Pop score up 36 to 6198. Weekly Pop down 1 to 296. No longer best in GM or the only one below 300.

Trafford 100 cases - down from 169. Total 11, 201. Weekly 961 Pop score up 42 to 4719 Good day for Trafford despite the cases numbers as it claws back 10 of the lead list to Stockport lately. Now just 128 behind in battle for lowest overall Pop score. Weekly Pop down 16 to 405. Now dead level with Wigan as highest GM weekly Pop.

Oldham 74 cases - down from 101, Total 17, 288. Weekly 690. Pop score up 31. Weekly Pop down 19 to 291 - a big drop to make Oldham second best in GM. Remarkable turnaround from being one of the worst in the UK under 3 months ago.

Tameside 65 cases - down from 132. Total 12, 350. Weekly 646. Lowest in GM just. Pop score up 29 to 5453. Weekly Pop down 13 to 288. Now just ahead as the best Pop in GM. The top 3 - here, Oldham and Bolton all sub 300 and all in past months home to major outbreaks. Very interesting.

Rochdale 52 cases - down from 141. Total 15, 308. Weekly 665. Pop score up 24 to 6883. Lowest rise today. Another borough that was sky high in autumn and now like the other bad boys doing really well. This is proving a pattern. The good go up and the bad go down. Any thoughts why??? Weekly Pop down a huge 31 to 302.

Trafford, Wigan and Stockport the three worst in GM right now - once the three lowest. And Bolton, Oldham, Rochdale and Tameside - all with big waves recently now the four best.


Why does such a flipperoo happen? Might be useful to figure it out.
 
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