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Healdplace said:
Me too. I have moved up so much because I am under 70 that I will at this rate probably be over 70 before I get it because I was under 70 when they calculated.

You have got to laugh.
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Actually, when I mean up, I mean it has come closer to where it was the first time I checked.
First it was April, second it was September and now it’s May. I hope it gets down to March so I can go away.
 
Gabriel said:
Could be that Scotland managed to lock down sufficiently just before the new variant could take hold; restricting travel in from England may have helped suppress its movement.
Might also mean that it is only working its way through the community more slowly, which could lead to problems arising later.
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In the meantime though it should in theory provide more time for the vaccine rollout to take place to the most vulnerable, and if/when it properly takes off up here the repercussions may not be so catastrophic. One would hope this is a possibility.
 
Matt Hancock tells him some unnecessary training modules have been removed - including fire safety, terrorism and others.

"We made this change as of this morning and I'm glad to say it's in force."

The seven mass vaccination centres set to open next week have been outlined - with venues in London, Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol, Surrey and Stevenage.

The prime minister's official spokesman told a Westminster briefing that the centres would include Robertson House in Stevenage; the ExCel Centre in London; the Centre for Life in Newcastle and the Etihad Tennis Centre in Manchester.

The other three are Epsom Downs Racecourse in Surrey; Ashton Gate Stadium in Bristol and Millennium Point in Birmingham

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roubaixtuesday said:
Covid is ~10x more deadly.
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I said really bad I don't wish to undermine it but believe it or not if it was as deadly as some flu strains we have had it would wipe out more than died from the Spanish flu 100 years ago.

this beast of a thing just transmits far more readily.
 
More on todays figures

NHS England say that another 674 people have died in England with COVID-19.

Patients were aged between 21 and 101. All except 29 (aged between 50 and 101) had known underlying health conditions.

The deaths were between 11 November and 5 January.

I fear it is coming down age groups now and in fitter people
 
03 March 2002 said:
Vaccines absolutely can eliminate COVID, by proxy of stopping transmission. The more prevalent the virus is, the more reproduction it is doing and thus the more mutations (strains) appear.
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I am no expert but its a little like wiping out the common cold another covid.

We have eliminated smallpox as far as I know an amazing feat if true.
 
Of the 2039 cases in Scotland today

290 are in people aged 65+, inclusive of 76 aged 85+ and 103 aged 75-84

128 are children under the age of 15, 31 of whom are under 5.

340 are aged 15-24, with 117 of those from the 15-19 bracket and 223 from the 20-24 bracket.

1277 of the cases are in the large age group of 20-64.


***Deaths***

The 68 deaths were from the following age groups

25 people aged 85+
20 people aged 75-84
12 aged 65-74
11 aged 45-64
 
Pedestrian said:
That’s part of the mandatory training for most folk working in the NHS. What’s your problem with 1/2 a days paid training to allow someone to administer a potentially fatal vaccine?
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The chief of the Royal College of Nursing was on the news last night saying the hoops were ridiculous. I suppose he has a beef with the NHS too?

And it’s just been announced that they are removing some of the more ‘ridiculous’ requirements for the volunteers.

I raised the issue last week and have had it the neck from all those hard of thinking.

Apology accepted from all of the abusers.
 
squirtyflower said:
As far as I’m aware you can’t enter France for love nor money.
Even if I could I’m more inclined to hunker down and stay safe.

But if I can have a vaccine in March I will already begin to feel safer and think about going away at last.
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I understand the you will feel safer, but you are still a potential risk to those around you is my understanding.
 
mosssideblue said:
I understand the you will feel safer, but you are still a potential risk to those around you is my understanding.
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We dont know if you can spread it , along with it takes a while for the vaccine to kick in , people need to stay with the rules till everyone who needs protection gets it
 
I thought the weekly vaccine total in Scotland was updated on a Wednesday. Can't find data regarding any update from today anywhere. Shame, as I had been hoping for a bit of positivity on that front.
 
kaz7 said:
I would have thought there would be no deniers who compare it to flu left in the world , your country has not and is not suffering like the uk
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I am only comparing deaths Kaz , the Spanish apparently wiped out 50 million world wide admittedly when their was much less air travel.

I am not a denier Kaz our demographics , the fact we restricted in fact banned overseas passenger travel for some months closed state borders , locked down Melbourne for 110 days in a full lockdown helped keep the number of deaths to 909 to date with around 29k recorded cases to date.

We buggered up by not keeping those in nursing homes properly quarantined as such.

As an island nation we have advantages covid wise that you don't but obviously allowing overseas travel , densely populated cities is a big minus when it comes to a pandemic.

Lucky for mankind in this century as bad as this pandemic from China is its not as deadly as some other diseases that easily transmit that have surfaced on this planet before.
 
squirtyflower said:
Actually, when I mean up, I mean it has come closer to where it was the first time I checked.
First it was April, second it was September and now it’s May. I hope it gets down to March so I can go away.
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Ah - I will check again. Might be sooner again. But if it has changed so often by so much in just a few weeks I will best regard it as meaningless and just wait to hear from my GP.
 
kaz7 said:
More on todays figures

NHS England say that another 674 people have died in England with COVID-19.

Patients were aged between 21 and 101. All except 29 (aged between 50 and 101) had known underlying health conditions.

The deaths were between 11 November and 5 January.

I fear it is coming down age groups now and in fitter people
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I was thinking that too Kaz but then I think it is just the overall rising numbers that inevitably bring in more from all ages.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Of the 2039 cases in Scotland today

290 are in people aged 65+, inclusive of 76 aged 85+ and 103 aged 75-84

128 are children under the age of 15, 31 of whom are under 5.

340 are aged 15-24, with 117 of those from the 15-19 bracket and 223 from the 20-24 bracket.

1277 of the cases are in the large age group of 20-64.


***Deaths***

The 68 deaths were from the following age groups

25 people aged 85+
20 people aged 75-84
12 aged 65-74
11 aged 45-64
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Though that might support what Kaz said. And I mooted here a week or two ago but dismissed as a glitch.

The new variant is very much spreading amongst the under 40s so if more are catching it inevitably more will die even if the same % persists.

Perhaps that explains it and why some medical staff have been saying they are seeing more younger people with Covid.

The over 80s are most vulnerable and have been decimated by this there will be a point where there is just not that many left to get to even regardless of the vaccine making them less vulnerable day by day.

Those who have survived 10 months might have some immunity from decades of past illnesses or are just more cautious, The deaths cannot ever go on just rising as in the past all pandemics ended with almost zero medical intervention.
 
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The locations of seven new vaccination centres in England have been announced. The centres, due to open next week, will be at:

  • Robertson House, Stevenage
  • Excel Centre, London
  • Centre for Life, Newcastle
  • Etihad Tennis Centre, Manchester
  • Epsom Race Course, Surrey
  • Ashton Gate Stadium, Bristol
  • Millennium Point, Birmingham
NHS workers and volunteers will staff the centres. The government is calling on volunteers to come forward to help.
 
mancity1 said:
I am only comparing deaths Kaz , the Spanish apparently wiped out 50 million world wide admittedly when their was much less air travel.

I am not a denier Kaz our demographics , the fact we restricted in fact banned overseas passenger travel for some months closed state borders , locked down Melbourne for 110 days in a full lockdown helped keep the number of deaths to 909 to date with around 29k recorded cases to date.

We buggered up by not keeping those in nursing homes properly quarantined as such.

As an island nation we have advantages covid wise that you don't but obviously allowing overseas travel , densely populated cities is a big minus when it comes to a pandemic.

Lucky for mankind in this century as bad as this pandemic from China is its not as deadly as some other diseases that easily transmit that have surfaced on this planet before.
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Spainish flu is red herring really , i doubt they did social distancing , masks or had the medical know how and equipement or drugs to fight it off
 
artfuldodger said:
The locations of seven new vaccination centres in England have been announced. The centres, due to open next week, will be at:

  • Robertson House, Stevenage
  • Excel Centre, London
  • Centre for Life, Newcastle
  • Etihad Tennis Centre, Manchester
  • Epsom Race Course, Surrey
  • Ashton Gate Stadium, Bristol
  • Millennium Point, Birmingham
NHS workers and volunteers will staff the centres. The government is calling on volunteers to come forward to help.
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Surprised brighton isnt included as the south east is up there with london, almost , the NEC is sat empty
 
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