US Politics Thread

[SebastianBlue]

You’re as biased as anyone, mate and if you don’t want disagreement and back and forth, don’t have a politics forum, it will always result in that.

That’s my point, nothing more, nothing less.

For the record, it’s not even that bad and this thread is tame, as literally everyone agrees on the main point.

We do all agree there is American politics in 2021.

And how.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

For the record, it’s not even that bad and this thread is tame, as literally everyone agrees on the main point.

This is actually a very fair point — we are taking slugs at each other and have different points of view (as I do with @Rascal) but he’s not being personal (I’m more guilty of that than he) and he explains where he’s coming from. The true shit-stirrers who have caused real problems in the past are either absent entirely or have toned their perspectives down (from both sides of the aisle) more or less.

 

[Ban-jani]

He absolutely isn’t and that is an utterly preposterous thing to say.

Whatever he’s paying you I’ll double it.

 

[meltonblue]

You know you’re going to need a separate trump thread as well at some point though. The good thing is after the 21st, at some point at least, hopefully there’ll be less chance of overspill between the two.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Speaking of...

The Don does love a big crowd doesn't he?

 

[Ban-jani]

This is actually a very fair point — we are taking slugs at each other and have different points of view (as I do with @Rascal) but he’s not being personal (I’m more guilty of that than he) and he explains where he’s coming from. The true shit-stirrers who have caused real problems in the past are either absent entirely or have toned their perspectives down (from both sides of the aisle) more or less.

The Trump supporters are long gone, they know they’ve lost and there’s no defending it.

The “thread’s going well lol” shite is condescending by people who are just as biased as those debating what’s left to debate.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

You know you’re going to need a separate trump thread as well at some point though. The good thing is after the 21st, at some point at least, hopefully there’ll be less chance of overspill between the two.

Amen brother.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

The Trump supporters are long gone, they know they’ve lost and there’s no defending it.

The “thread’s going well lol” shite is condescending by people who are just as biased as those debating what’s left to debate.

I don’t find it condescending so much as strangely misinformed, as I think that we’re both right that other threads were far more toxic on their faces.

 

[Ric]

You’re as biased as anyone, mate and if you don’t want disagreement and back and forth, don’t have a politics forum, it will always result in that.

That’s my point, nothing more, nothing less.

For the record, it’s not even that bad and this thread is tame, as literally everyone agrees on the main point.

I never said the thread was particularly bad, although your “socialism is cancer” post was a bit weird and out of place. I just made a light-hearted response to Seb’s comment that you seemed to have latched on to for some reason.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This is absolutely f*cking genius...

 

[Ban-jani]

I don’t find it condescending so much as strangely misinformed, as I think that we’re both right that other threads were far more toxic on their faces.

The faux outrage at political disagreements in discussion, in a politics sub-forum, designed to allow such disagreements to take place outside of the normal off topic, is unnecessary.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The Trump supporters are long gone, they know they’ve lost and there’s no defending it.

The “thread’s going well lol” shite is condescending by people who are just as biased as those debating what’s left to debate.

I am offended!

I am far more biased than any of you middling folk.

I don’t find it condescending so much as strangely misinformed, as I think that we’re both right that other threads were far more toxic on their faces.

This is an odd thing to hear from you, Fog, given their faces are the (still) public versions of the threads. It’s difficult to be misinformed when @Ric and the mods see all of the posts (read toxic comments/exchanges) that are removed.

 

[Ban-jani]

I never said the thread was particularly bad, although your “socialism is cancer” post was a bit weird and out of place. I just made a light-hearted response to Seb’s comment that you seemed to have latched on to for some reason.

I didn’t say that, I quoted my colleague, who is a native, in response to a poster insinuating something that was wide of the mark about a country where people have starved.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I am quite surprised that a light-hearted joke and short exchange between me and @Ric — really intended as a gentle reminder that this could be a better thread than previous ones, after reading through all of the current pages (and some related reports and already removed posts) and seeing some exchanges that were definitely headed toward the high toxicity variety — has lead to a bit of a ‘bash the janitors’ discussion.

But, hey, any way we can bring people together, I guess!

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I am offended!

I am far more biased than any of you middling folk.


This is an odd thing to hear from you, Fog, given their faces are the (still) public versions of the threads. It’s difficult to be misinformed when @Ric and the mods see all of the posts (read toxic comments/exchanges) that are removed.

You don’t think this thread is less toxic than some of the Biden stuff or the early Trump stuff? I do. That’s why I thought thinking this thread is as toxic is “strangely misinformed” — cuz I know the mods see all and I thought some of the discussions in those threads were much worse/personal/dumb.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Whatever he’s paying you I’ll double it.

My daily rate is about twelve hundred quid, so you do the math. Need the money up front, though.

 

[SebastianBlue]

You don’t think this thread is less toxic than some of the Biden stuff or the early Trump stuff? I do. That’s why I thought thinking this thread is as toxic is “strangely misinformed” — cuz I know the mods see all and I thought some of the discussions in those threads were much worse/personal/dumb.

See my post above, mate.

And I am not sure where I said this thread is *as* toxic as the others? Or perhaps you were talking about someone else saying that?

I really am confused.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I am quite surprised that a light-hearted joke and short exchange between me and @Ric — really intended as a gentle reminder that this could be a better thread than previous ones, after reading through all of the current pages (and some related reports and already removed posts) and seeing some exchanges that were definitely headed toward the high toxicity variety — has lead to a bit of a ‘bash the janitors’ discussion.

But, hey, any way we can bring people together, I guess!

Ah. For the record I didn’t take your comments as a criticism but as a rib (and not as condescending in the least). But I think Ban’s right that this thread isn’t as like those became . . . . . but maybe that’s because at one time I had Ban on ignore after a tiff!!!!

All good mate, no worries — job and a half patrolling this place!

And forgive me — I am a strange combo of giddily happy that Trump is getting stuffed and on a nervous edge about what the next ten days holds.

 

[Ric]

You don’t think this thread is less toxic than some of the Biden stuff or the early Trump stuff? I do. That’s why I thought thinking this thread is as toxic is “strangely misinformed” — cuz I know the mods see all and I thought some of the discussions in those threads were much worse/personal/dumb.

Not sure anyone has described this thread as “toxic” tbh? Feels like there are a few crossed wires going on.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This thread is turning seriously toxic.