It’s not just the cost to businesses, it’s the health consequences of those costs that needs to be included (when the economy shrinks, the least well off suffer most).Just on this subject:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8866/
21st December 2020
Based on the current amount of deaths (80k), that’s £3.5m per death. I haven’t got figures of hospitalisations to hand to see what that would look like. How much do NICE allow for treatments under normal circumstances? (I don’t know how it works.)
edit: read around the subject a little - QALYS and all that. None the wiser. Feel free to expand, or point to articles. Thanks.
I briefly saw these figures shared somewhere (possibly here, unsure), but thought it would be interesting to bring them up. I wouldn’t be able to analyse or come to any conclusions, and I don’t have interest in such things currently.
These idiots don't believe in it but they'll want their jab. Challenge anyone of them, it's bullshit according to them but they are quite prepared to have the vaccine.Supermarkets are a fucking nightmare lots with no masks so many just dawdling as if on a day trip.
Maybe the people who have no mask are exempt, if that's the case there should be a national exemption card to carry about.
It would be good if the supermarkets could allow only certain people within an age range at certain hours, eg vulnerable elderly people.
Have no idea how it could be implamated,, maybe it's a bad idea i don't know.
After a couple of bad experiences I changed supermarket in April, and since then I've never really had a problem, the people using the one I use are mostly great, I also changed the day I shop to Monday, it's generally quiet early afternoon when I go. Can't do the same time every week obviously, but I stick to that as much as I possibly can.Supermarkets are a fucking nightmare lots with no masks so many just dawdling as if on a day trip.
Fake news unless you have proof.If hospital patients outside of London were being sent home to die so that Londoners can be saved then he'd have a point.
I'm not sure that is the case, however.
To be honest, if people (footballers in this case) can't take responsibility for themselves (and ultimately their own families and friends they go home to), why should we be bothered ? Other than they can super spread to others not involved.A Derby County side decimated by COVID19 positive tests is knocked out of the FA Cup by a Chorley side who celebrate in a way which suggests they too will be decimated by COVID19 positive tests in the not too near future but hey ho the vaccine is on its way...........let’s hope I’m wrong.......
At Chorley ? LOL I doubt anyone is tested before or after, if so who's paying for it ? I'm sure Chorley aren't.They are all tested before and after the game so it’s absolutely fine.
How so mate?Having worked in the Testing "industry" for a few months now I actually feel that testing makes things worse.
At Chorley ? LOL I doubt anyone is tested before or after, if so who's paying for it ? I'm sure Chorley aren't.
Fingers crossed :)The players have had tests and isolated up to 10 days ahead of the game, do some research.
plus they’re playing footie for 90mins and getting changed in the changing room, so I’m sure this celebration for the biggest win in the clubs history isn’t going to make any difference whatsoever
Kin ell.3 weeks!
Ah the it's only once/twice/three times line and that's not from the Lionel Richie song. I'm sorry I don't know but I just can't accept that all the people in there had been tested even if they had tests are not 100% accurate.The players have had tests and isolated up to 10 days ahead of the game, do some research.
plus they’re playing footie for 90mins and getting changed in the changing room, so I’m sure this celebration for the biggest win in the clubs history isn’t going to make any difference whatsoever
The Morrisons in Denton never have any Antibac or towels for cleaning the trolley handles or for hand use, I always carry some with me but a lot don'tTurn away people with no masks and who don’t sanitise their hands from supermarkets. No mask, no entry; won’t sanitise your hands at the door, see ya! If you can’t wear a mask for medical reasons you cannot go in and must only get your food delivered to home.
Turned away from the supermarket if you’re not on your own and the person with you isn’t a carer or a parent with their kid(s). Groups of teenagers should be told to fuck right off, as should couples who seem to think the supermarket is a nice place to go for a stroll together while it’s lockdown.
Fines should be handed out to parents of teenagers who are congregating outdoors or in supermarkets (teenagers in supermarkets seems to be a bit of a ‘thing’ now, hanging around the car park for hours or even going inside in groups).
Close non-essential shops. I mean, they’re supposed to be closed anyway but Costa and Starbucks seem to be given a special status of essential businesses during this lockdown, what the fuck’s that about? Queues out the door when I’ve walked past after work this week. How is coffee from massive chains essential when local small business coffee shops are closed?
No meeting anyone from another household for exercise outdoors. Even go as far as a period of 10-14 days where nobody is allowed to leave home to exercise. Too many people are coming into close contact with other people. Similar to isolating, it’ll help bring numbers down somewhat.
Parents who can’t be arsed with their kids at home while they’re working from home should be told to fuck off by schools when they’re trying to dump their kids on the school pretending they’re a key worker.
January Vocational exams should have been cancelled outright from Monday. I’ve had kids in exam rooms this week during a new faster spreading strain of a pandemic when we’re supposed to be in lockdown (although we have now given them an option not to attend if they can’t or don’t want).
Bosses should be letting employees work from home if they can, not making them come into work and see if they can get away with it.
Cancel all intercontinental sports. No internationals, no Champions League. People shouldn’t be crossing borders at the moment. And none of this fucking travelling to Dubai like our women’s team have.
City did the same after beating United as well tbf.That entire dressing room plus anyone who has close contact with them such as family should be made to self isolate for 10 days. Absolute state. In fact all footballers should be made more aware of their actions. Why the fuck were we in one big huddle after smashing the rags. Arsenal players all piling on top of each other earlier. It’s a joke.
Supermarkets are a fucking nightmare lots with no masks so many just dawdling as if on a day trip.
Maybe the people who have no mask are exempt, if that's the case there should be a national exemption card to carry about.
It would be good if the supermarkets could allow only certain people within an age range at certain hours, eg vulnerable elderly people.
Have no idea how it could be implamated,, maybe it's a bad idea i don't know.
Mate it’s too true , on Friday saw a disabled women been to b and m with little storage unitsI might have posted this before in here, but seeing a couple shopping together - one with a mask and one without - it’s incredibly frustrating and points to a complete lack of intelligence/appreciation for the situation we are in.
If the mask less one is exempt from wearing a mask, WTF is that person doing in there? Send the one in who can wear a mask.
I think as you say, a lot of ppl desperate for stuff to do and using the supermarket as a ‘day out’.
Turn away people with no masks and who don’t sanitise their hands from supermarkets. No mask, no entry; won’t sanitise your hands at the door, see ya! If you can’t wear a mask for medical reasons you cannot go in and must only get your food delivered to home.
Turned away from the supermarket if you’re not on your own and the person with you isn’t a carer or a parent with their kid(s). Groups of teenagers should be told to fuck right off, as should couples who seem to think the supermarket is a nice place to go for a stroll together while it’s lockdown.
Fines should be handed out to parents of teenagers who are congregating outdoors or in supermarkets (teenagers in supermarkets seems to be a bit of a ‘thing’ now, hanging around the car park for hours or even going inside in groups).
Close non-essential shops. I mean, they’re supposed to be closed anyway but Costa and Starbucks seem to be given a special status of essential businesses during this lockdown, what the fuck’s that about? Queues out the door when I’ve walked past after work this week. How is coffee from massive chains essential when local small business coffee shops are closed?
No meeting anyone from another household for exercise outdoors. Even go as far as a period of 10-14 days where nobody is allowed to leave home to exercise. Too many people are coming into close contact with other people. Similar to isolating, it’ll help bring numbers down somewhat.
Parents who can’t be arsed with their kids at home while they’re working from home should be told to fuck off by schools when they’re trying to dump their kids on the school pretending they’re a key worker.
January Vocational exams should have been cancelled outright from Monday. I’ve had kids in exam rooms this week during a new faster spreading strain of a pandemic when we’re supposed to be in lockdown (although we have now given them an option not to attend if they can’t or don’t want).
Bosses should be letting employees work from home if they can, not making them come into work and see if they can get away with it.
Cancel all intercontinental sports. No internationals, no Champions League. People shouldn’t be crossing borders at the moment. And none of this fucking travelling to Dubai like our women’s team have.
Turn away people with no masks and who don’t sanitise their hands from supermarkets. No mask, no entry; won’t sanitise your hands at the door, see ya! If you can’t wear a mask for medical reasons you cannot go in and must only get your food delivered to home.
Turned away from the supermarket if you’re not on your own and the person with you isn’t a carer or a parent with their kid(s). Groups of teenagers should be told to fuck right off, as should couples who seem to think the supermarket is a nice place to go for a stroll together while it’s lockdown.
Fines should be handed out to parents of teenagers who are congregating outdoors or in supermarkets (teenagers in supermarkets seems to be a bit of a ‘thing’ now, hanging around the car park for hours or even going inside in groups).
Close non-essential shops. I mean, they’re supposed to be closed anyway but Costa and Starbucks seem to be given a special status of essential businesses during this lockdown, what the fuck’s that about? Queues out the door when I’ve walked past after work this week. How is coffee from massive chains essential when local small business coffee shops are closed?
No meeting anyone from another household for exercise outdoors. Even go as far as a period of 10-14 days where nobody is allowed to leave home to exercise. Too many people are coming into close contact with other people. Similar to isolating, it’ll help bring numbers down somewhat.
Parents who can’t be arsed with their kids at home while they’re working from home should be told to fuck off by schools when they’re trying to dump their kids on the school pretending they’re a key worker.
January Vocational exams should have been cancelled outright from Monday. I’ve had kids in exam rooms this week during a new faster spreading strain of a pandemic when we’re supposed to be in lockdown (although we have now given them an option not to attend if they can’t or don’t want).
Bosses should be letting employees work from home if they can, not making them come into work and see if they can get away with it.
Cancel all intercontinental sports. No internationals, no Champions League. People shouldn’t be crossing borders at the moment. And none of this fucking travelling to Dubai like our women’s team have.
The players have had tests and isolated up to 10 days ahead of the game, do some research.
plus they’re playing footie for 90mins and getting changed in the changing room, so I’m sure this celebration for the biggest win in the clubs history isn’t going to make any difference whatsoever