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Saddleworth2 said:
So that makes every Englishman in Scotland brainless? Bit controversial from you there BJ. I have too many manners to confirm the truth of that or otherwise.
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The wink was a giveaway.

I was kidding, Scotland is a lovely country, as is every green land on the British isles.
 
So Richard Littlejohn in the fail this morning. Much like 'City Bingo' we now have 'Scottish Bingo' and this arsehole just won a cuddly toy. It looks like its written for an English rather than a Scottish readership (its hardly going to do anything for the Scots other than harden views.) and why would that be?

Why would a national newspaper deliberately set out to inflame dislike between English and Scots?

No bloody wonder we get folks on here posting this stuff. Can anyone blame them?
What worked for Brexit will work for Scottish Independence. I actually am beginning to think the Tories want it to happen.

These are exerts to give you the tone.

"What we want is another independence referendum, said absolutely nobody outside the ranks of swivel-eyed SNP supporters.

If in doubt, blame the English.

Failing schools: blame the English. Corona: blame the English. Celtic falling 23 points behind Rangers: blame that cheating Scouse Git Stevie Gerrard. Send him hame to think again!

Sturgeon never takes responsibility for her own failures. Far easier to point the finger at the wicked Westminster bogeyman.

But Sturgeon has been allowed to pretend that she is handling the pandemic with far more assurance than Boris.

Part of this is down to the cult of personality which has been constructed around the First Minister, by a largely slavish domestic media and the support of a political class who owe their lucrative fealty to the myth of SNP competence and invincibility.

Every lunchtime at midday — until I switched off in disgust — the BBC and the increasingly Left-wing Sky News Black Lives Matter Channel (under its new American management) beamed Wee Burney and Her Amazing Dancing Bear across the kingdom. TV producers are happy to roll out the red carpet for Sturgeon because she reinforces their own anti-Boris, anti-Brexit fanaticism.

Boris should be reminding the Scots that it’s England’s money footing the bill for the largesse they enjoy and for which the SNP takes credit.

He must turn the spotlight on Sturgeon and her husband, who run Scotland as their personal fiefdom.

She’ll probably dodge the bullet. Demagogues generally do in one-party states. But there’s also simmering resentment between the Holyrood crowd and the SNP’s Westminster contingent, led by porky pub bore Ian Blackford, suspected of living high on the hog in London at taxpayers’ expense.

Even though I fear that if you extended the vote on Scottish independence across the whole UK, the English would in a heartbeat wish the North British a fond farewell — glad to be well shot of whining Wee Burney and her gang of ingrates."
 
Saddleworth2 said:
So Richard Littlejohn in the fail this morning. Much like 'City Bingo' we now have 'Scottish Bingo' and this arsehole just won a cuddly toy. It looks like its written for an English rather than a Scottish readership (its hardly going to do anything for the Scots other than harden views.) and why would that be?

Why would a national newspaper deliberately set out to inflame dislike between English and Scots?

No bloody wonder we get folks on here posting this stuff. Can anyone blame them?
What worked for Brexit will work for Scottish Independence. I actually am beginning to think the Tories want it to happen.

These are exerts to give you the tone.

"What we want is another independence referendum, said absolutely nobody outside the ranks of swivel-eyed SNP supporters.

If in doubt, blame the English.

Failing schools: blame the English. Corona: blame the English. Celtic falling 23 points behind Rangers: blame that cheating Scouse Git Stevie Gerrard. Send him hame to think again!

Sturgeon never takes responsibility for her own failures. Far easier to point the finger at the wicked Westminster bogeyman.

But Sturgeon has been allowed to pretend that she is handling the pandemic with far more assurance than Boris.

Part of this is down to the cult of personality which has been constructed around the First Minister, by a largely slavish domestic media and the support of a political class who owe their lucrative fealty to the myth of SNP competence and invincibility.

Every lunchtime at midday — until I switched off in disgust — the BBC and the increasingly Left-wing Sky News Black Lives Matter Channel (under its new American management) beamed Wee Burney and Her Amazing Dancing Bear across the kingdom. TV producers are happy to roll out the red carpet for Sturgeon because she reinforces their own anti-Boris, anti-Brexit fanaticism.

Boris should be reminding the Scots that it’s England’s money footing the bill for the largesse they enjoy and for which the SNP takes credit.

He must turn the spotlight on Sturgeon and her husband, who run Scotland as their personal fiefdom.

She’ll probably dodge the bullet. Demagogues generally do in one-party states. But there’s also simmering resentment between the Holyrood crowd and the SNP’s Westminster contingent, led by porky pub bore Ian Blackford, suspected of living high on the hog in London at taxpayers’ expense.

Even though I fear that if you extended the vote on Scottish independence across the whole UK, the English would in a heartbeat wish the North British a fond farewell — glad to be well shot of whining Wee Burney and her gang of ingrates."
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Ouch.
Wherever you stand in the SNP referendum discussion, can you not agree that, what passes for news reporting nowadays is pitiful.

More and more news is becoming opinion pieces with an agenda to promote.

This piece was nasty enough in it’s name calling style.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
So Richard Littlejohn in the fail this morning. Much like 'City Bingo' we now have 'Scottish Bingo' and this arsehole just won a cuddly toy. It looks like its written for an English rather than a Scottish readership (its hardly going to do anything for the Scots other than harden views.) and why would that be?

Why would a national newspaper deliberately set out to inflame dislike between English and Scots?

No bloody wonder we get folks on here posting this stuff. Can anyone blame them?
What worked for Brexit will work for Scottish Independence. I actually am beginning to think the Tories want it to happen.

These are exerts to give you the tone.

"What we want is another independence referendum, said absolutely nobody outside the ranks of swivel-eyed SNP supporters.

If in doubt, blame the English.

Failing schools: blame the English. Corona: blame the English. Celtic falling 23 points behind Rangers: blame that cheating Scouse Git Stevie Gerrard. Send him hame to think again!

Sturgeon never takes responsibility for her own failures. Far easier to point the finger at the wicked Westminster bogeyman.

But Sturgeon has been allowed to pretend that she is handling the pandemic with far more assurance than Boris.

Part of this is down to the cult of personality which has been constructed around the First Minister, by a largely slavish domestic media and the support of a political class who owe their lucrative fealty to the myth of SNP competence and invincibility.

Every lunchtime at midday — until I switched off in disgust — the BBC and the increasingly Left-wing Sky News Black Lives Matter Channel (under its new American management) beamed Wee Burney and Her Amazing Dancing Bear across the kingdom. TV producers are happy to roll out the red carpet for Sturgeon because she reinforces their own anti-Boris, anti-Brexit fanaticism.

Boris should be reminding the Scots that it’s England’s money footing the bill for the largesse they enjoy and for which the SNP takes credit.

He must turn the spotlight on Sturgeon and her husband, who run Scotland as their personal fiefdom.

She’ll probably dodge the bullet. Demagogues generally do in one-party states. But there’s also simmering resentment between the Holyrood crowd and the SNP’s Westminster contingent, led by porky pub bore Ian Blackford, suspected of living high on the hog in London at taxpayers’ expense.

Even though I fear that if you extended the vote on Scottish independence across the whole UK, the English would in a heartbeat wish the North British a fond farewell — glad to be well shot of whining Wee Burney and her gang of ingrates."
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That's disgusting, although I'd expect nothing different from this nasty, sneering shitbag. It's like a distillation of the views of every hard right xenophobic English racist wanker. Since the last election they've become increasingly threatened by Sturgeon, probably because she shines a rude light on "Boris" by being everything that he isn't.

This is patently absurd because it's the total inverse of the truth. Just swap the names:

But Sturgeon has been allowed to pretend that she is handling the pandemic with far more assurance than Boris.

Part of this is down to the cult of personality which has been constructed around the First Minister, by a largely slavish domestic media and the support of a political class who owe their lucrative fealty to the myth of SNP competence and invincibility.

He will never escape the image of a close-to-tears Michael Winner showing him up to be the smutty bigot that he is, on live TV. His Gammon Soul was exposed permanently to be repeated on every "TV's most embarrassing moments" compilation.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Ouch.
Wherever you stand in the SNP referendum discussion, can you not agree that, what passes for news reporting nowadays is pitiful.

More and more news is becoming opinion pieces with an agenda to promote.

This piece was nasty enough in it’s name calling style.
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Back to my question though. Why? For what reason? What is the agenda? As I said its hardly going to convince anyone in Scotland - not even those that are fervently for the Union. So who is it aimed at and what is the underlying purpose?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
That's disgusting, although I'd expect nothing different from this nasty, sneering shitbag. It's like a distillation of the views of every hard right xenophobic English racist wanker. Since the last election they've become increasingly threatened by Sturgeon, probably because she shines a rude light on "Boris" by being everything that he isn't.

This is patently absurd because it's the total inverse of the truth. Just swap the names:

But Sturgeon has been allowed to pretend that she is handling the pandemic with far more assurance than Boris.

Part of this is down to the cult of personality which has been constructed around the First Minister, by a largely slavish domestic media and the support of a political class who owe their lucrative fealty to the myth of SNP competence and invincibility.

He will never escape the image of a close-to-tears Michael Winner showing him up to be the smutty bigot that he is, on live TV. His Gammon Soul was exposed permanently to be repeated on every "TV's most embarrassing moments" compilation.
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I thought it was ridiculous, then sinister. I think we will be the next 'target'.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I thought it was ridiculous, then sinister. I think we will be the next 'target'.
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Someone or something is going to have to counter or excuse the inevitable push towards Scottish independence, so the narrative that the Scots are the leaching savages will fit that. And The Daily Mail will certainly be at the vanguard of it, to cover it's tracks for being one of the leading instruments in forcing that break up of the UK. And he is their "main man", their hidden inner voice.

That paper and its editors have a lot to answer for and so have the daft old Boomer idiots who read it.

Despite the football and banter, the English don't dislike the Scottish and never have. That would be ridiculous.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Someone or something is going to have to counter or excuse the inevitable push towards Scottish independence, so the narrative that the Scots are the leaching savages will fit that. And The Daily Mail will certainly be at the vanguard of it, to cover it's tracks for being one of the leading instruments in forcing that break up of the UK. And he is their "main man", their hidden inner voice.

That paper and its editors have a lot to answer for and so have the daft old Boomer idiots who read it.

Despite the football and banter, the English don't dislike the Scottish and never have. That would be ridiculous.
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I know they don't mate. There was a time that the English weren't bothered by the EU either. Look how that turned out after years of media poison.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Back to my question though. Why? For what reason? What is the agenda? As I said its hardly going to convince anyone in Scotland - not even those that are fervently for the Union. So who is it aimed at and what is the underlying purpose?
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Is there a reason or an agenda?

Or is it just villing the void left by Brexit getting done.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Ouch.
Wherever you stand in the SNP referendum discussion, can you not agree that, what passes for news reporting nowadays is pitiful.

More and more news is becoming opinion pieces with an agenda to promote.

This piece was nasty enough in it’s name calling style.
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Trying to break the union. Thought i'd have seen a bit more passion against such rhetoric.
 
Coatigan said:
Is there a reason or an agenda?

Or is it just villing the void left by Brexit getting done.
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I don't know. The three questions I have are:

Who do you think the target audience is?

What reaction are they trying to excite in that target audience?

Why are they doing that?

Its one of an increasing number of these type of articles in the right wing press that are attacking Sturgeon, the SNP and ultimately the wider Scottish populace. There has to be a purpose to it even if that is simply to promote division and dislike. Im just interested in what other folk think.
 
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