Lowest car production for 36 years. Last year's 29% reduction is more Covid than Brexit - but the previous reductions since 2016 are Brexit.
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metalblue
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Can we have the original French for your source (particularly the last quote) as it's not how it sounds from the quotes on the rtb website?
The only reference to Brexit says
La Grand-Bretagne est fidèle à la décision du Brexit, à savoir au "repli sur soi. Nous nous voulons aider l’ensemble des Européens. Que se serait-il passé si chacun des 27 s’était lancé seul dans la recherche de vaccins ? Certains grands pays auraient pu obtenir quelque chose, d’autres seraient restés sur le côté".
It's a bit idiomatic but GB is true to the Brexit decision to look after itself. As for us, we want to help Europeans together. What would happen if the 27 each threw themselves alone into vaccine research? Some of the big countries would get something, others would be left at the side".
He certainly said the bit about "maybe Britain wants to start a vaccine war" (and was rather daft to do so) but the transcript bears little resemblance to your quote.
"Our aim is at the moment only that all European countries get vaccines, in proportion to their population, at the same time. Transparency is necessary, and not a war of the vaccines. Perhaps Great Britain wants to get into a vaccine war, but we have programmed vaccines for all European countries and our partners".
("Notre but c’est à présent que tous les pays européens reçoivent, au même moment, des vaccins en proportion de leur population. La transparence est nécessaire, et pas qu’il y ait une guerre des vaccins.
Peut-être que la Grande-Bretagne veut se lancer dans une guerre des vaccins, mais nous, nous avons programmé des vaccins pour les pays européens et nos partenaires".)
Was yours a Telegraph translation?
Didier Reynders : 'Nous voulons le respect total des engagements, la solidarité, pas une guerre des vaccins' - RTBF Actus
Ces derniers jours, le ton est sérieusement monté entre la Commission européenne et AstraZeneca, après l’annonce par...www.rtbf.be
No I lifted it directly (copy and pasted) from the BBC, was on their live reporting earlier. Now story has entirely gone
@mancity2012_eamo stated the other day they’re in it for a profit and not for the good of humanity.
Clearly says to “no profit or loss”.
smudgedj
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It gets better
Ursula von Layen said...
“No. There are binding orders and the contract is crystal-clear. AstraZeneca has expressly assured us in this contract that no other obligations will stand in the way of fulfilling the contract.”
The contract states...
“AstraZeneca shall not be deemed in breach of this Agreement as a result of any such delay due to the aforementioned competing agreement(s).”
They’ve been absolutely fucked here, they’re like UEFA!
west didsblue
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FFS – Best ‘reasonable’ EndeavoursLol
If you listen carefully you can hear Merkel screaming at Ursula von der Leyen
That noise you can hear in the background is the sound of many keyboards as those posters who have recently been ever so high-handed and acted as smartarses are rushing to admit that perhaps they were – well a bit high-handed and acting as smartarses
AstraZeneca Discloses EU Vaccine Contract After Supply Dispute - BNN Bloomberg
mancity2012_eamo
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Fair enough. I accept that.
I was talking about pharmaceutical companies in general, not just AZ.
And we are in extraordinary times.
I still stand by my point that if the pharmaceuticals want to be altruistic, sell off patent.
We have enough companies based here that could supply us and the rest of Europe, I’m sure.
smudgedj
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Someone is going to have an interesting weekend. Lol
Ursula fond of Lying could always get the EU's new investment partner to help out. Failing that, at least the good people of the EU can vote her out at the next election
journolud
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Cheers for that. The inference was though that Blair’s motivation for getting us into the Euro was not for the benefit of the country but to grease the wheels of his personal ambition. I was wondering if the poster could substantiate that
Actually in the actual contract they have signed!
Im presuming you’ve read it? You seem annoyed by the news?
Well the book doesn’t do that, it’s a fine book because it only deals in accounts by people in the administration and around it.
It doesn’t seek to confirm motivations it doesn’t know exist, I’d recommend it to anyone.
Discussion over lunches at the Treasury - with people that absolutely would know
TBF it was a topic of open discussion across Westminster at the time
In the period before Brown acted
journolud
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Would not surprise me to be fair about the smarmy twat. Anyway off topic but on this occasion I’m grateful for your insight ;-)
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I'll try scanning that in Morrisons later.Well that’s a waste of time.
west didsblue
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Not in the slightest.
Just pointing out the irony of you complaining about people posting stuff from Twitter.
The EU have fucked up. I've never said otherwise.
Smarmy twat is right, being totally and utterly objective I actually found myself feeling sorry for Blair the more I read about how Brown treated him.
It’s the actual contract though.
I don’t mind if people are tweeting actual documentation like in this regard. It’s vote leave or FBPE accounts posting drivel I object to.
I’m actually struggling to fathom how such a professional and forward thinking outfit have got this so wrong.