Political relations between UK-EU

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London based shipping company (I won’t mention until public) whom our company have close ties with are relocating to Denmark with Brexit being the main cause - the employees have the option to work there or redundancy.
it’s a real shame, I know a lot of the people there and have a beer up with them once in a while.
As I’ve said earlier in the thread, I’m close to a business that’s moving manufacturing back to the UK from Eastern Europe (moved there 15 years ago for cheap labour at the cost of numerous redundancies in the UK). I don’t imagine there’s a net benefit but some of this will even out. A lot of messing really to play with jobs/lives etc.
 
As I’ve said earlier in the thread, I’m close to a business that’s moving manufacturing back to the UK from Eastern Europe (moved there 15 years ago for cheap labour at the cost of numerous redundancies in the UK). I don’t imagine there’s a net benefit but some of this will even out. A lot of messing really to play with jobs/lives etc.
What is the driver to them moving back?
 
so its to avoid border delays? The one's that were not going to happen.
And presumably labour costs in the UK are anticipated to go down as unemployment increases. Eventually the whole economy will rebalance to become lower cost lower wage with people who have lost their jobs due to them going to the EU picking up less well paid ones as some manufacturing repatriates to serve the UK market. Totally the opposite of being a globally trading nation. Lower imports, lower exports, less choice. There will be some beneficiaries but overall there will be a negative impact IMO.
 
And presumably labour costs in the UK are anticipated to go down as unemployment increases. Eventually the whole economy will rebalance to become lower cost lower wage with people who have lost their jobs due to them going to the EU picking up less well paid ones as some manufacturing repatriates to serve the UK market. Totally the opposite of being a globally trading nation. Lower imports, lower exports, less choice. There will be some beneficiaries but overall there will be a negative impact IMO.

are they flag makers who only make Union Flags and Crosses of St George? If so I can see why they feel the move will be beneficial.
 
Express readers must be so blinkered, ignorant and dumb. There are no new rules they are not cherry picking the EU is applying to the existing rules which we were instrumental in drawing up which were designed to keep imports from 3rd countries out. There is only one reason we are a 3rd country - "the will of the people" including fishermen so it is rather tought titty as they were warned

 
As I’ve said earlier in the thread, I’m close to a business that’s moving manufacturing back to the UK from Eastern Europe (moved there 15 years ago for cheap labour at the cost of numerous redundancies in the UK). I don’t imagine there’s a net benefit but some of this will even out. A lot of messing really to play with jobs/lives etc.

Makes sense to avoid the trade barriers. Where does the company source its raw materials from? I don‘t know what the company manufactures so this question may be redundant.
 
Express readers must be so blinkered, ignorant and dumb. There are no new rules they are not cherry picking the EU is applying to the existing rules which we were instrumental in drawing up which were designed to keep imports from 3rd countries out. There is only one reason we are a 3rd country - "the will of the people" including fishermen so it is rather tought titty as they were warned

Headline is "hits out at EU" whereas he's really hitting out at Liar Johnson's deal (take a bow, Mr Frost).

Funny how the Express suddenly thinks being an "independent coastal state" doesn't sound so good now.
 
Headline is "hits out at EU" whereas he's really hitting out at Liar Johnson's deal (take a bow, Mr Frost).

Funny how the Express suddenly thinks being an "independent coastal state" doesn't sound so good now.

Yeah, kind of funny that we demanded to be treated as an independent coastal state, get treated as an independent coastal state and then get outraged over being treated as an independent coastal state.

The fact that they don’t ‘get’ the obvious contradiction is worrying though. This lack of understanding and ‘double-think’ doesn’t bode well for the country going forward.
 
Headline is "hits out at EU" whereas he's really hitting out at Liar Johnson's deal (take a bow, Mr Frost).

Funny how the Express suddenly thinks being an "independent coastal state" doesn't sound so good now.

It was a handy jingoistic phrase which it turns out has consequences - if only they had been forewarned
 
Yeah, kind of funny that we demanded to be treated as an independent coastal state, get treated as an independent coastal state and then get outraged over being treated as an independent coastal state.

The fact that they don’t ‘get’ the obvious contradiction is worrying though. This lack of understanding and ‘double-think’ doesn’t bode well for the country going forward.
Some on here claim to have made a living out of it.
 
Yeah, kind of funny that we demanded to be treated as an independent coastal state, get treated as an independent coastal state and then get outraged over being treated as an independent coastal state.

The fact that they don’t ‘get’ the obvious contradiction is worrying though. This lack of understanding and ‘double-think’ doesn’t bode well for the country going forward.

they know only too well what they are doing - deflecting from the Brexit consequences by diverting blame onto the EU. Its readership are dumb enough to fall for it and meanwhile fishing businesses and family run haulage firms go bust
 
Express readers must be so blinkered, ignorant and dumb. There are no new rules they are not cherry picking the EU is applying to the existing rules which we were instrumental in drawing up which were designed to keep imports from 3rd countries out. There is only one reason we are a 3rd country - "the will of the people" including fishermen so it is rather tought titty as they were warned


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Today I went shopping in Morrison's, Every tomato had an EU label, once again I bought none. I will do without rather than give the EU my money. It was well noted that there was not one tomato with a British label. I think it's time I started shopping elsewhere.’


Really, you want a British grown tomato in winter? Good luck.
 
Rather enjoyed the comments below the article including...

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Today I went shopping in Morrison's, Every tomato had an EU label, once again I bought none. I will do without rather than give the EU my money. It was well noted that there was not one tomato with a British label. I think it's time I started shopping elsewhere.’


Really, you want a British grown tomato in winter? Good luck.

Its like they really don't get it isn't it? Did they buy some tea bags filled with tea grown on the plantations in South Yorkshire? Maybe some Nescafe' made with Welsh cultivated beans?.........
 
I am guessing John doesn't do much of his own shopping. UK supermarkets already stock and sell British shellfish. Is he suggesting that he knows more about stock control than say Morrison's or Tesco? I am pretty sure that they will stock with enough - usually a little more than enough which leads down the path of food waste - to meet the demand on any given day. Why would they buy more of a notoriously difficult item to keep fresh if that would mean their stock will exceed demand? Yet another ill thought out simplistic non-answer rather than facing up to an issue he has striven 40 years in politics to create

 
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Rather enjoyed the comments below the article including...

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Today I went shopping in Morrison's, Every tomato had an EU label, once again I bought none. I will do without rather than give the EU my money. It was well noted that there was not one tomato with a British label. I think it's time I started shopping elsewhere.’


Really, you want a British grown tomato in winter? Good luck.
Unless we cut down on tomatoes, someone will have to eat non-UK toms. We import half what we consume even in the summer. I won't wait for someone to suggest we expand our capacity here. No grower is going to do that if they can't get people to pick them. Major grower Glinwell has been up to 97% EU workers in previous years. I presume some of them now live here, and it's weekend so I can't ask how many seasonal staff they need, and how they can get them. I do know they will not be expecting Brits to sign up in droves.
 
I am guessing John doesn't do much of his own shopping. UK supermarkets already stock and sell British shellfish. Is he suggesting that he knows more about stock control than say Morrison's or Tesco? I am pretty sure that they will stock with enough - usually a little more than enough which leads down the path of food waste - to meet the demand on any given day. Why would they buy more of a notoriously difficult item to keep fresh if that would mean their stock will exceed demand? Yet another ill thought out simplistic non-answer rather than facing up to an issue he has striven 40 years in politics to create


Just what Britain needs. A mussel mountain. Ideal for foodbanks.
 
Unless we cut down on tomatoes, someone will have to eat non-UK toms. We import half what we consume even in the summer. I won't wait for someone to suggest we expand our capacity here. No grower is going to do that if they can't get people to pick them. Major grower Glinwell has been up to 97% EU workers in previous years. I presume some of them now live here, and it's weekend so I can't ask how many seasonal staff they need, and how they can get them. I do know they will not be expecting Brits to sign up in droves.

I seem to recall they signed up in droves last year..............just didn't turn up in droves..........
 

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