United (H) Post Match Thread

Poor all round today, easy to say now, walker should have started with there counter being there main threat, cancelo was awful along with de bryne, sterling and jesus, the others average at best. crying out for bernado as well!
 
FantasyIreland said:
On Pep that.....another of his infrequent but famous brain farts.

The team selection was wrong from the start,and im not convinced he understands what the Derby means.....you play your best players in your best 11.

Anyway.....on a positive,hopefully its treated as a wake up call for the CL.
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It wasnt wrong from the start. These are great footballers all. This is not Guardiola's doing
 
Pep every time United play a game within the boundaries of the City of Manchester
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domalino said:
You say the greatest goalscorer we have is in the stands because you're looking at the past. The likelihood is that player is gone. He hasn't scored a league goal for over a year. He's taken 10 months to come back from a 6 week injury. He looked woeful in the last game.

You're looking at Aguero on the bench and thinking its the old Aguero, and the sad fact is that Pep sees him every day and would have thrown him on in an instant if he thought he could help - he did it all the time over the last 5 years.
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He comes on for 10/15 mins and if he’d been on the end of any of the opportunities that Raz fucked up chances are he’d have scored them. He doesn’t need to be fully fit to do that.
 
So fucking disappointed!
These tw@ts at home again!
Why couldn’t we save this kind of performance for Southampton - i could live with that!
C***y T****ing Pissfl@ps!!!
And breathe......
 
Is it still 1995 v Blackburn that we last won a game when losing at HT?! Struggling to remember if there was one more recently.
 
supercity88 said:
Said in the pre match I felt relaxed. Thought it was because they're so far behind I wouldn't care. Safe to say I was fucking wrong. That hurts regardless of league position.

When I saw the lineup the same foreboding as when I saw the Lyon lineup.

Walker had to start. They're only threat was the counter. Ferny had to start. He is the king of the dark arts. Foden had to start. He knows what it means. Bernardo had to start. He fights for every ball.

It was the wrong lineup and it didn't change at HT as it should have. Sterling just lacks the bottle in the big games. De Bruyne was really poor. Jogging about, playing poor passes and just completely off it.

But for all the stick we might give the team. 21 wins in a row. That's made today painful but tomorrow morning with a clear head it's still a great view from the top.

Maybe we needed a little bump. Rather have had it against Southampton but better than in the FA Cup or CL.

And it still shows how in a big game we are beatable and lacking a clinical edge in front of goal. The wrong pass or a poor one. Not shooting when we could have or shooting when a pass was on.

Pep just hasn't managed to nail their quite obvious tactics against us. But we move on. Three derbies and we won the one we needed to.
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It was the wrong line-up and it did feel like the Lyon match beforehand. Pep is a strange beast. He's a total genius most of the time but he throws the curve balls in doesn't he? I was sure Walker would start because of his pace and ability to stop counter attacks. Not playing Bernardo seems bizarre because he is our best player at winning balls and moving the ball forward at pace. It just seemed an absurd team selection. Plus I just don't trust Raheem in the biggest games. He always misses the crucial chances.
 
We had a fair number of chances...but the team didn’t look confident from the start. In our biggest matches remaining, we have to play the guys who’ve built max confidence together. Don’t actively undermine it.

personally I think pep sees all of this as rotations he’s going to do and to hell with the derby or whatever. He’s committed to a path.

But we’ll see once we get to the biz end of cl - because then it really has to be this year that he stops the impulse to put it all on himself with some unexpected tweak, and he goes all out with his best squad that is simply relentless and wants it the most.

And I love kdb, but his negative arms-in-air energy isn’t the right kind when the team’s under the gun. And when he gets frustrated he gets impatient with passes.
 
deano ou812 said:
Zinchenko ? What’s he said ..
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thanks pep
when will you realise how.important to match going blues the derby is????
energy was needed from the off
bernardo and foden
not your slow sluggish midfield that saw us in the shite up till december
de bruyne was a mile off the pace same as his last 2 games
just shocking
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
They completed dominated the flow of the game.

A missed Martial header, a wrongly chosen pass from Rashford, a save from Ederson, we were looking at 5 against us.

The system was all wrong and then exposes Stones and Dias as mere mortals.

Anyone can take losing a game, even to them, but at least set the team up at its most effectiveness.

This league is not over, certainly if we persist with the starting set-up we had today.

I love Sergio, but I know he doesn't suit the present winning formula, and Pep seemingly knows it too.

So it is fair for people to ask why the fuck should Kev and Sterling be treated any differently?

These two have been crap for 90 per cent of the season.
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yes and benching them for a few games would do no harm in giving them a reality check
 
We had to lose at some point but why oh why did it have to be to them?

The early penalty certainly didn’t help.

Let’s hope we can get back on track against Southampton.
 
The truth is, this result has been coming. We were poor against West Ham and were complacent as fuck against Wolves only for a late flurry.

De Bruyne coming back has a lot to do with this. Why he's being shoehorned into the team to the detriment of everyone else when Aguero can't get a game because he "can't press" is beyond me.

We had a sensational balance and run of results where we looked like untouchable champions with Bernardo, Foden and Gundogan interchanging in central positions yet we've binned that the last few weeks since De Bruyne is back and have been scraping wins again. We look back to our pre-Christmas selves.
 
Rammy Blue said:
He comes on for 10/15 mins and if he’d been on the end of any of the opportunities that Raz fucked up chances are he’d have scored them. He doesn’t need to be fully fit to do that.
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But he probably wouldn't have been on the end of them.

Come on FFS this is toddler levels of thinking, you can't just swap one player out for another and think they'd get the same chances. Raheem Sterling for all his faults is one of the best players in the world at finding space in the box and losing defenders.

The Aguero we saw vs. Wolves wouldn't have gotten on the end of any of those chances.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
They completed dominated the flow of the game.

A missed Martial header, a wrongly chosen pass from Rashford, a save from Ederson, we were looking at 5 against us.

The system was all wrong and then exposes Stones and Dias as mere mortals.

Anyone can take losing a game, even to them, but at least set the team up at its most effectiveness.

This league is not over, certainly if we persist with the starting set-up we had today.

I love Sergio, but I know he doesn't suit the present winning formula, and Pep seemingly knows it too.

So it is fair for people to ask why the fuck should Kev and Sterling be treated any differently?

These two have been crap for 90 per cent of the season.
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Just seems it’s easier for Pep to drop Foden because he’s such a top lad. Clearly it’s not in the best interests of the team.
 
How many times did Pep drop Iniesta & Xavi when Barcelona played Real Madrid ?
 
HelloCity said:
I think you’re wrong on this one buddy. The general point is sound but for the biggest games you need your very best team. I think most people would agree that our best team right now has both Foden and Bernardo in it and neither were included. They embellish both our attack and our defending from the front.
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Thirty major trophies playing the most attractive football on the planet - I don't think Pep has any football
lessons to learn from any understandably distraught fans who post comments on forms like this.
 
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