I voted for it and it's made no difference to me, yet. The problem with this thread is it gets personal and you can see the profiling going on which is far from the truth. Plus whenever I have pointed out provable inaccuracies they just get ignored. In the end this is football forum first and there are obviously very few experts on here regarding complex trade. All I see now is angry people calling me a ****. Why would I want to engage with that?
I never said it will be all great and never believed it when others said it would. It was a stupid decision to hold the referendum (in the way it was) but THAT is down to the politicians not the people. Call THEM what you want, but casting aspersions based on people's democratic right is extremely basic, it's like me calling someone a **** for smoking all their life and then ending up in an NHS hospital using up funds that could be better used on someone who didn't smoke.Let's here the innaccuracies? Own your position. Tell us how it will all be great. When it will be great and how do we make it great by binning the place we sold 47% of our exports? If I had a £ for every time I was called a **** on here I could offset the defificit and still have enough to buy France. Do what I do, argue your case, but, also do what I do, when I make a **** of it, as I have a right few times, own it and admit it.
Where are all the Brexiteers? Metal Biker et al? Is it just me, or do or other people wonder where the fuck they have gone, as the predicted shit has hit the fan? My bet is they are sitting in their room, fondling their new Blue Passport. £5.6b lost. Now, I'm not an accountant, but that seems like a lot.
My point was mainly why you're not seeing much of anyone from the Brexit side of things, some of whom have followed this much more closely than I have. I'm more of a casual observer popping in every now and then, but each time I do it feels like an AA meeting where you're all jabbering support to each other for comfort, so I usually walk away.I get that and it's not pleasant that it's so emotive it strays into abuse.
I think my issue is with your first sentence. I'm assuming you wouldn't have voted for it to make no difference to you. You must've wanted some sort of improvement. It's not me saying people are wrong for voting Brexit, more that those that did vote for it should be holding the shower in charge responsible for things not being better.
My problem with the people who voted for it is simple. They bought the lies through either, not having a clue of how an economy such as ours actually works. They were diverted by a xenophobic flag waving exercise to blame a minority of foreign people for the disastrous running of the economy by the Tories. They had every right to vote as they wished, I haven't a problem.wuth that, what 8 do have a problem.with is was all a lie. I know a lot knew it, but, they wanted rid if the EU because they believed at face value how the Hate Mail tickled their racist funbybone. That was enough for them. Labour, also made an absolute arse of it by being Labour. No one knows what they are, what they stand for or where they are going. Spoiler, to the Right. As the months go on and the enormity of this insanity becomes more apparent, and more people are screwed by it, the vitriol will get louder and people who defended or supported it, will have both their intelligence and sanity questioned. It's coming, because every single thing that those who could see the futility of cutting your nose off to spite a different face, is coming down the pipe. Variances in figures, inaccuracies may occur, the bottom line is though, we will be poorer financially and socially. That's just a fact and confirmed today with a loss of £5.6b. That's in six weeks of still four years of Johnson Gove and the rest of those pricks still in charge. There will cone a day when they are celebrating a £5.6b loss as the good old days.I never said it will be all great and never believed it when others said it would. It was a stupid decision to hold the referendum (in the way it was) but THAT is down to the politicians not the people. Call THEM what you want, but casting aspersions based on people's democratic right is extremely basic, it's like me calling someone a **** for smoking all their life and then ending up in an NHS hospital using up funds that could be better used on someone who didn't smoke.
As for inaccuracies, you only have to go back an hour or two when someone decided they would divide the export drop value by the famed £350M to calculate how many weeks worth it was as some sort of genius way of proving their point, but conveniently forgetting we also imported less by a bigger drop, so by that algorithm are actually better off. Not that it in any way makes sense, but some people 'liked' it.
I’d accept some langoustine maybe a day old packed in ice transported in a refrigerated truck straight to the door.You slagging our Scottish fish? :)
Even the rotting ones have a strange nobility.
As for inaccuracies, you only have to go back an hour or two when someone decided they would divide the export drop value by the famed £350M to calculate how many weeks worth it was as some sort of genius way of proving their point, but conveniently forgetting we also imported less by a bigger drop, so by that algorithm are actually better off. Not that it in any way makes sense, but some people 'liked' it.
I have to inform you the flies are each priced at ten pence, bringing the total to £345.70 exc vat and red tape.I’d accept some langoustine maybe a day old packed in ice transported in a refrigerated truck straight to the door.
Ill take a fiver’s worth please.
£5.6bn drop in exports. £6.6bn drop in imports. According to the BBC anyways.This was a head scratcher...you want to explain that one to me?
I get entirely what you’re saying and get suspicious of everyone agreeing with each other in here.My point was mainly why you're not seeing much of anyone from the Brexit side of things, some of whom have followed this much more closely than I have. I'm more of a casual observer popping in every now and then, but each time I do it feels like an AA meeting where you're all jabbering support to each other for comfort, so I usually walk away.
I view things very differently to most people, being a problem-solver for businesses. I tend to put aside what has happened and focus on what needs to be done.
Put some whiskey in the coffee.I get entirely what you’re saying and get suspicious of everyone agreeing with each other in here.
I too look for an opposing view for balance.
Having said that, I’m out for my daily walk with my mate and we are trying to solve all the current problems over coffee and it doesn’t work.
To really sort out the world you need to get back into the pub and talk bollox over a few pints.
Nothing in Ireland was ever sorted by talking sense over coffee.
Damn you COVID-19.
You’re welcomeIt's a scandal. Stupid cunts voting to leave condemning generations to suffer because they are xenophobic bastards.
You’re welcome
It's a scandal. Stupid cunts voting to leave condemning generations to suffer because they are xenophobic bastards.
£5.6bn drop in exports. £6.6bn drop in imports. According to the BBC anyways.
It’s Brexitannia. No one will take you seriously if you can't even get your spelling right.Will you be coming home to Brexitania when the project bears fruit?
My vote to leave was exclusively down to TTIP. I couldn’t reconcile the thought of US corporations having the right to financial redress against our public sector (primarily the NHS / Public Health for me) with a society I wanted to live in and my children to inherit. That it was belatedly kicked to the long grass is irrelevant, that it was considered was what swayed me.
Doesn’t really play into your “xenophobic bastards” narrative - which is a) quite lazy and b) very offensive - but, to borrow @smudgedj parlance for a moment, you’re still welcome.
I have absolutely no doubt that there were plenty of people who had plausible, albeit misguided reasons, but let's not kid anyone, immigration won the day for leave. Or would you contest that? So the xenophobic bastard comment is applicable to the majority, but not all, who voted to leave for no better reason than they wanted rid of people, and wanted to stop others arriving.My vote to leave was exclusively down to TTIP. I couldn’t reconcile the thought of US corporations having the right to financial redress against our public sector (primarily the NHS / Public Health for me) with a society I wanted to live in and my children to inherit. That it was belatedly kicked to the long grass is irrelevant, that it was considered was what swayed me.
Doesn’t really play into your “xenophobic bastards” narrative - which is a) quite lazy and b) very offensive - but, to borrow @smudgedj parlance for a moment, you’re still welcome.
It’s Brexitannia. No one will take you seriously if you can't even get your spelling right.
Yes, but that also depends on whether those widgets previously imported are now made within the country or imported from another trading bloc, the reason for my criticism of the original theory being it demonstrates a rather basic view to support the main point of the post.Imports are also lost revenue.
If a company imports x number of widgets to sell in the UK that is taxable revenue generated in the UK. The revenue generated pays for staff in the UK, delivery drivers in the UK, retail staff in the UK, sales teams, advertising and so on.
A drop in imports is not a net gain for the UK, it is a loss.