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[yankblue]

I had a long post typed up but fuck it I think I should just sign off.

Just hope City was against this.

 

[RegMuffin]

"Football without the fans" bollox from the PL and the government. Both have collectively shat on fans for decades now. Chickens are coming home to roost.

 

[BlueRockape]

Next year I will be mainly supporting.....Elche : (

 

[give it to gordon]

if City pull out of the champions league which would means players ban from world cups, euros etc. Can players leave for free as i guess City would be breaking the terms and conditions of the contract ?

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Please, City, please do not be involved in this!

 

[journolud]

It’s a no from me

 

[ninjamonkey]

I suspect this breakaway competition won't happen but if it does, I really can't see them going ahead with banning those teams. A Spanish league without Real, Barcelona and Atletico, an Italian league without the 2 Milan clubs and Juventus and a PL without the 6 biggest clubs?

The breakaway teams would just form their own full on league and I know which one would be more tempting for the TV companies to spend their money on.

TV companies would dump it after a year, 2 tops when they realise its just exhibition games. Anyway, the thing to consider is the players, no player is going to want to be part of it, they'll be playing substantially less games, which may sound good at first but will quickly become a problem, theyll be paid less and they won't be able to feature for their country either which is huge.

It would become an MLS style retirement home for the past-it's almost instantly, anybody remotely near their prime would be off to play for someone else.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Well, who didn't see it coming. The Yanks are all about money. The minute they got fucked off fucking around with the league they just went overseas.

This is a fucking abomination. Owners will enrich themselves, as will greedy fucking footballers. Let's not forget that lot. They're complicit in this. Greedy fuckers just take, take, take and take some more. £200,000+ a week wages. Fucking greed. Someone has to pay for this.....

Bottom of the pile are the fans. No one gives a fuck. This Covid proved one thing to the Yanks. You don't need fans. Yep, all that shite about the atmosphere making a difference.....utter shite. Just play some artificial shite crowd noises and the plebs will carry on watching it. Yup, we don't fucking care. If City line up v Liverpool in Little fucking Rock Arkansas at 11pm on a Tuesday we'll fucking watch it, and pay more to do so as well.

Next one is invitational teams. River Plate, Corinthians, Miami fucking Beckham..... yep, it's round the corner. Oh, and some on here will welcome it. Who wouldn't want to watch City v River Plate in Milan.....just wait, it's coming.

RIP football.

You mean the newly hotly anticipated...... Football World Series Cup

 

[Northblue]

Go city Go city Go cityView attachment 14461

I believe that we will win!

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Hardly ever.......

Major League Baseball[edit]​

See also: Major League Baseball relocation of 1950s–60s and List of defunct and relocated Major League Baseball teams

• 1902: Original Milwaukee Brewers moved to St. Louis and became the St. Louis Browns.
• 1903: Original Baltimore Orioles moved to New York City and became the Highlanders. The team was renamed the Yankees in 1913. As this situation may be considered a case of the American League dissolving the Baltimore franchise and issuing a new franchise in New York, Yankees history information usually begins in 1903.
• 1953: Boston Braves moved to Milwaukee. This was the first move in 50 years. During those 50 years, there had also been no expansions or contractions – Major League Baseball had consisted of the same 16 teams, 8 in each league, playing in the same 10 cities without interruption for half a century.
• 1954: St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Orioles.
• 1955: Philadelphia Athletics moved to Kansas City.
• 1958: Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles and the New York Giants moved to San Francisco. These were the first major league teams to be based in the U.S. West Coast; the teams moved simultaneously to facilitate travel for other National League (NL) teams. The NL granted New York City a new expansion franchise, the New York Mets, in 1962.
• 1961: Washington Senators moved to the Twin Cities area and became the Minnesota Twins. Not wishing to alienate Washington, D.C., the American League (AL) granted the city a new expansion franchise, also called the Senators.
• 1966: Milwaukee Braves moved to Atlanta.
• 1968: Kansas City Athletics moved to Oakland. Because Charles O. Finley broke a recently signed lease and public bonds were already issued for the building of what is now known as Kauffman Stadium, Major League Baseball was in danger of anti-trustlegislation from Stuart Symington, U.S. Senator from Missouri. As a result, the AL granted Kansas City a new expansion franchise, the Kansas City Royals, in 1969.
• 1970: Seattle Pilots moved to Milwaukee and became the Brewers. The AL granted Seattle a new expansion franchise, the Seattle Mariners, in 1977.
• 1972: Washington Senators moved to Arlington and became the Texas Rangers.
• 2005: Montreal Expos moved to Washington, D.C. and became the Washington Nationals. The Expos had split time between Montreal and San Juan, Puerto Rico in 2003 and 2004. This was the first move in 33 years.[3]
• 2020: Toronto Blue Jays temporarily moved to Buffalo, New York, and retained the name. This is due to the COVID-19 pandemic affecting Canada which resulted in the closure of the Canada-United States border, preventing the Blue Jays from playing their home games at the Rogers Centre. It also marked the first time an MLB game was played in Buffalo since the Buffalo Bisons of the Federal League folded in 1915 as well as no games played in Canada since 1968.

Further information: 2020 Toronto Blue Jays season

National Basketball Association[edit]​

Main article: List of relocated National Basketball Association teams

• 1951: Tri-Cities Blackhawks, who played their home games in Moline and Rock Island and Davenport, moved to Milwaukee and became the Hawks.
• 1955: Milwaukee Hawks moved to St. Louis.
• 1957: Fort Wayne Pistons moved to Detroit.
• 1957: Rochester Royals moved to Cincinnati.
• 1960: Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles.
• 1962: Philadelphia Warriors moved to the San Francisco Bay Area and became the San Francisco Warriors, then the Golden State Warriors in 1971.
• 1963: Chicago Zephyrs moved to Baltimore and became the Baltimore Bullets.
• 1963: Syracuse Nationals moved to Philadelphia and became the 76ers.
• 1968: St. Louis Hawks moved to Atlanta and became the Atlanta Hawks.
• 1971: San Diego Rockets moved to Houston and became the Houston Rockets.
• 1972: Cincinnati Royals moved to a new primary home in Kansas City and a secondary home in Omaha, becoming the Kansas City-Omaha Kings (to avoid confusion with the baseball Royals.) The team ceased playing home games in Omaha in 1975.
• 1973: Baltimore Bullets moved to Landover, Maryland, outside Washington, D.C., and were renamed as the Capital Bullets. The team was renamed the Washington Bullets in 1974; in conjunction with the opening of their new arena in downtown D.C., the team was renamed the Washington Wizards in 1997.
• 1978: Buffalo Braves moved to San Diego and became the Clippers.
• 1979: New Orleans Jazz moved to Salt Lake City and become the Utah Jazz.
• 1984: San Diego Clippers moved to Los Angeles and became the Los Angeles Clippers.
• 1985: Kansas City Kings moved to Sacramento and became the Sacramento Kings.
• 2001: Vancouver Grizzlies moved to Memphis and became the Memphis Grizzlies.
  Further information: Vancouver Grizzlies relocation to Memphis
• 2002: Charlotte Hornets moved to New Orleans. The NBA granted Charlotte a new expansion franchise, known as the Bobcats, in 2004. The Bobcats reclaimed the Hornets name before the start of the 2014–15 season.
  • At the same time that the name change to Hornets was announced, it was also revealed that the Hornets, the league, and the franchise now known as the New Orleans Pelicans had reached an agreement that the history of the original Charlotte Hornets would belong exclusively to the current Hornets.[4][5] As a result, the NBA now considers the Charlotte Hornets to have begun play in the 1988–89 season, suspended operations following the 2001–02 season, returned as the Bobcats beginning with the 2004–05 season, and renamed the Hornets beginning with the 2014–15 season, while the New Orleans Pelicans kept their history as the Hornets from moving in 2002.
• 2005: New Orleans Hornets moved temporarily to Oklahoma City following Hurricane Katrinaand became the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets.
  Further information: Effect of Hurricane Katrina on the New Orleans Hornets
• 2007: New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets returned to New Orleans full-time. The team was renamed as the Pelicans in 2013.
• 2008: Seattle SuperSonics moved to Oklahoma City and became the Thunder.
  Further information: Seattle SuperSonics relocation to Oklahoma City
• 2020: Toronto Raptors moved temporarily to Tampa due to the closure of the Canada-United States border stemming from the COVID-19 situation affecting Canada, preventing the Raptors from playing their home games in the Scotiabank Arena.

Further information: 2020–21 Toronto Raptors season

National Football League[edit]​

Main article: National Football League franchise moves and mergers
The history of the NFL fully incorporates that of the fourth American Football League, which began operation in 1960 with eight teams and became by far the most successful rival to the NFL. In 1966, the two leagues agreed to a merger that took full effect in 1970. All teams from the 1960–1969 AFL were brought intact to the NFL, and the current NFL recognizes all AFL records and statistics as its own.

• 1921: Decatur Staleys moved to Chicago and became the Bears one year later.
• 1934: Portsmouth Spartans moved to Detroit and became the Lions.
• 1937: Boston Redskins moved to Washington, D.C.
• 1946: Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles.
• 1960: Chicago Cardinals moved to St. Louis.
• 1961: The AFL's Los Angeles Chargers moved to San Diego after spending only their inaugural season in Los Angeles.
• 1963: The AFL Dallas Texans (not to be confused with the short-lived NFL franchise of the same name) moved to Kansas City, Missouri, and became the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 1982: Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles. Although the NFL refused permission for the move, the team won the right to move (as well as the right to remain as a franchise in its conference and in the league) through a court case.
• 1984: Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis and became the Indianapolis Colts. The team's offices were slipped out of Baltimore in the middle of the night to avoid a proposed eminent domain seizure by the state of Maryland.
  Further information: Baltimore Colts relocation to Indianapolis
• 1988: St. Louis Cardinals moved to the Phoenix area, playing games in nearby Tempe and became the Phoenix Cardinals. The team was renamed the Arizona Cardinals in 1994. The team now plays in another Phoenix suburb, Glendale.
• 1995: Los Angeles Raiders moved back to Oakland after 13 seasons.
• 1995: Los Angeles Ramsmoved to St. Louis.
  Further information: History of the National Football League in Los Angeles
• 1996: Cleveland Browns players and coaching staff moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens. The move was one of the most controversial in major professional sports history. In response to a fan revolt and legal threats, the NFL awarded a new franchise to Cleveland in 1999, which for historical purposes is considered a continuation of the original Browns franchise.
  Further information: Cleveland Browns relocation controversy
• 1997: Houston Oilers moved to Memphis and became the Tennessee Oilers. The team originally planned to play the 1997 and 1998 seasons in Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium in Memphis before moving to Nashville. However, due to poor attendance, the team moved to Nashville in 1998, playing in Vanderbilt University's stadium. The team was renamed the Titans in 1999, when their new stadium was opened. The NFL granted Houston a new expansion franchise in 2002.
• 2016: St. Louis Rams moved back to Los Angeles after 21 seasons in St. Louis. The team moved to a new stadium in nearby Inglewood in 2020.
• 2017: San Diego Chargers returned to their original home of Los Angeles after 56 seasons in San Diego. The team played in the suburb of Carson before joining the Rams at their new stadium in 2020.
• 2020: Oakland Raiders were approved to move to a new stadium in the Las Vegas area in 2020.[6] The team played in Oakland for the 2018 season and, due to being thwarted in its plans to play in San Francisco by their regional rivals the 49ers, were forced to play in Oakland in 2019 as well before completing the move to Las Vegas in 2020.[7][8]
  Further information: Oakland Raiders relocation to Las Vegas

National Hockey League[edit]​

Main article: List of defunct and relocated National Hockey League teams
Only one NHL team that moved has kept its name: the Calgary Flames.

The Edmonton Oilers nearly moved to Houston in 1998, but the team remained in the city after a limited partnership raised enough money to purchase the franchise before the deadline.[9][10] The then-Phoenix Coyotes were placed into bankruptcy with the intent to circumvent the league's relocation rules, but this was blocked by a judge. Other threats to leave came from two of the 1967 expansion teams, the Pittsburgh Penguins (on multiple occasions) and St. Louis Blues (in 1983), but ultimately stayed in their existing markets.

• 1976: California Golden Seals, who played their home games in Oakland, moved to Cleveland and became the Barons. The Cleveland Barons then merged with the Minnesota North Stars two years later; the San Francisco Bay Area was awarded the San Jose Sharksin 1991 when the owners threatened to move the team from Minnesota, they were allowed to split half the team back to San Jose.
  Further information: 1991 NHL Dispersal and Expansion Drafts
• 1976: Kansas City Scouts moved to Denver and became the Colorado Rockies.
• 1978: The Cleveland Barons franchise merged with the Minnesota North Stars; Ohio was awarded an expansion team in 2000.
  Further information: 1978 NHL Dispersal Draft
• 1980: Atlanta Flames moved to Calgary; Atlanta was awarded an expansion team in 1999, which moved to Winnipeg in 2011.
• 1982: Colorado Rockies moved to East Rutherford and became the New Jersey Devils; 13 years later, Colorado received a relocated team.
• 1993: Minnesota North Stars moved to Dallas and became the Stars; Minnesota was awarded an expansion team in 2000.
• 1995: Quebec Nordiques moved to Denver and became the Colorado Avalanche.
• 1996: Winnipeg Jets moved to Phoenix and became the Phoenix Coyotes. The team changed its geographic name to Arizona prior to the 2014–15 season.
• 1997: Hartford Whalers moved to Raleigh and became the Carolina Hurricanes. For the 1997 and 1998 seasons, they played home games in Greensboro while their intended home, the venue now known as PNC Arena, was under construction in Raleigh.
• 2011: Atlanta Thrashers moved to Winnipeg and became the current version of the Winnipeg Jets.

Major League Soccer[edit]​

• 2006: The San Jose Earthquakes moved to Houston and became the Houston Dynamo; however, the team records, logo, colors, championships, and history were left in San Jose. An option for an MLS franchise was awarded to Oakland Athletics owner Lew Wolff in 2006, and the option was exercised in 2007. The Earthquakes resumed play in MLS in 2008 as a continuation of the previous Earthquakes franchise under new ownership.

An utterly disgraceful thing. Could you imagine growing up in sight of the stadium of a team, have a long standing love for them from your earliest memory through to adulthood; only for them to up and leave to a city 2,000 miles away?!

What a load of fucking shit!

We could be FC Birmingham Moonmen within a decade.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

All the national Football Associations of the teams behind this should ban them from their domestic leagues. Let 10 teams play their fucking mini league against each other ad nauseum. Ridiculous stuff.
If you totally remove meritocracy like this I don't know any right thinking fans who want a part of it.

 

[domalino]

You are wrong.
All the UEFA leagues have agreed any club signing up will be chucked out of all leagues and cup competitions and their players banned from internationals.
So no,premier league, FA Cup, Carabo cup, European tournaments or world cups.

That's the threat.

What actually happens is a completely different matter.

 

[red 2 hats]

If we've signed up to this nonsense I will be done with City and football, it's insulting to us fans that we've jumped into bed with clubs who have gone out of their way to destroy us.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

For me there is not a chance the domestic leagues will kick out the clubs angling for this super league - the domestic leagues need those clubs - that goes for La Liga, Seria A etc

 

[Cobwebcat]

I can’t actually see this going ahead. The opposition to it is from just about everywhere.

Looking for some backtracking hopefully. Everyone should be concerned with US ownership going forward now if they were under any illusions before.

 

[Norbert D]

Our mates over at the Gruniad believe this is all a game of high stakes poker, the greedy bastards wanting an even bigger slice of the pie.

 

[willipp]

That's the threat.

What actually happens is a completely different matter.

When the PL suddenly sit in the prospect of having no major product when the big 5/6 sides are kicked out they will soon change that tune. PL posturing but they aren’t total idiots.

 

[PragueBlue]

TV companies would dump it after a year, 2 tops when they realise its just exhibition games. Anyway, the thing to consider is the players, no player is going to want to be part of it, they'll be playing substantially less games, which may sound good at first but will quickly become a problem, theyll be paid less and they won't be able to feature for their country either which is huge.

It would become an MLS style retirement home for the past-it's almost instantly, anybody remotely near their prime would be off to play for someone else.

Not sure really. Can't see the big names signing for less prestigious clubs and they will generally follow the money, which is more likely to be ploughed into this new league. The threat of not playing internationals is probably a bigger deterrent.

I can't see it happening at all and suspect there is more at play here. These clubs must have been expecting this backlash, so it all depends what their endgame is. Perhaps to force UEFA to give them guaranteed CL places or to somehow favour them.

 

[Citizen Green]

Feel the toothpaste is out of the tube with this now unfortunately, whether it’s delayed now or not, big changes are afoot.

 

[BlueRockape]

If we've signed up to this nonsense I will be done with City and football, it's insulting to us fans that we've jumped into bed with clubs who have gone out of their way to destroy us.

According to my sauce and times were in