Sorry - but this is the response of a romantic. Elite football is all about financial strength now. Sad but true. The breakaway clubs have this; the devalued domestic leagues do not. A breakaway 20-team league comprised of most of the world's best-recognised club names is stronger than any domestic tournament. I stand by the reasoning outlined in my earlier post (No.2548).The clubs don't hold all the cards though. You say they don't need the PL but the PL needs them, this isn't true. The PL would be substantially weaker without them clearly but they'd survive, football would continue for the rest of the teams, if the founding 6 don't have the PL though they have nothing, a club can't exist without a domestic league to compete in. sure they can attempt to create a super league between themselves in its void but that's not sustainable for anybody.
The PL and the FA (and the Spanish and Italian equivalent) actually hold the aces here they just have to be bold enough to stick to their threats with regards to expelling clubs from the league and call their bluff.
As gutting and horrible as it is, yes.The difficulty for us is that, in my opinion, we were painted into a corner. It would have been commercial suicide not to join this operation.
I agree with this.We have been lucky to have amazing owners who genuinely do care about the club. As we know they have invested significantly in Manchester. So I don't want to believe that our owners should be tarred with the same brush as the American owners, who I believe have driven this potential catastrophe.
From what I have read, in this tragic disaster both City and Chelsea were painted into a corner. To not sign up would have been commercial suicide for both clubs. The sustainable business model developed by CFG would have been shattered.
But the fact is we do have a sustainable business model, so if this falls over (as we hope it does), its not going to affect us anywhere near as much as poorly run clubs like Barcelona and Real.
I honestsly believe that our owners in their hearts will be pleased if this does collapse. They have run a successful business, almost all the others have not.
Let's not give up hope. This is potentially the biggest fight ever in football.
Sorry but what they have done is wrong, the hunted has become the hunter.Or
Khaldoon are sick of being fucked over by UEFA and the PL.
It's just a power seize. European League isn't happening and never will.Does anyone else get the impression this may be a move to scare UEFA into getting more with the new champions league structure?
I think this is the case.From what I have read, in this tragic disaster both City and Chelsea were painted into a corner. To not sign up would have been commercial suicide for both clubs. The sustainable business model developed by CFG would have been shattered.
That maybe the case, but it may not.Love you mate but you need to catch up. This is a simple precursor to a closed Super League with 38 weekend games per side (and those five open slots will also be closed as soon as the SL figures out which five European clubs can make the league the most money I assure you). If this goes through it will only be a matter of time -- perhaps almost no time -- before we either bin the Prem or it bins us.
Premier league would attract the finances of the Championship without the "big six".The clubs don't hold all the cards though. You say they don't need the PL but the PL needs them, this isn't true. The PL would be substantially weaker without them clearly but they'd survive, football would continue for the rest of the teams, if the founding 6 don't have the PL though they have nothing, a club can't exist without a domestic league to compete in. sure they can attempt to create a super league between themselves in its void but that's not sustainable for anybody.
The PL and the FA (and the Spanish and Italian equivalent) actually hold the aces here they just have to be bold enough to stick to their threats with regards to expelling clubs from the league and call their bluff.
You can actually see a world where the American owned clubs might still want to push through with it and risk expulsion but they'll be at least one that buckles and many others will quickly follow. especially so when fan pressure starts, and covid or not you can be sure they'll be literal riots outside all 12 stadiums if that became a genuine possibility.
If the PL, FA, UEFA and everyone else involved in that statement stick to what they say and the super league group stick to their proposal, there's only one winner here and City aren't on the right side of it
You're failing to factor in fans impact. Football in its current form is all about financial strength because they've got a product everybody wants to see and buy into. This super league has been globally condemned, nobody wants it and without the fans paying for it, the sponsorship doesn't exist and the whole thing dies.Sorry - but this is the response of a romantic. Elite football is all about financial strength now. Sad but true. The breakaway clubs have this; the devalued domestic leagues do not. A breakaway 20-team league comprising of most of the world's best-recognised club names is stronger than any domestic tournament. I stand by the reasoning outlined in my earlier post (No.2548).
Well there's always Stockport County Oldham athletic etc..;)Basically the working classes are f.....d again. Football was the available outlet, now they’ve stolen that.
Taken from James Corbett on twitter, who claims to have seen a copy of the "Super League Document".That maybe the case, but it may not.
Anything though that curtails UEFAs power i approve off though. The PL also have a vested interest in keeping the clubs in the PL and it is feasible to do both.
The one area that will suffer is international football, which personally i couldnt give a fuck about.
My initial horror at the proposal has been replaced with one of lets see how it pans out. It could well be amazing for football, but equally it could be the end of domestic football.
If it is planned to be the pinacle of the pyramid then I am fine with that, if it is closed as you say then i have reservations, but i am not going to dismiss it out of hand based on so little evidence and knowledge of what is actually being proposed.
Premier Leagye votes require 14 votes to get anything done. There have been numerous iterations of new formats, competitions, and revenue agreements. It is no coincidence that 14 clubs have voted against them.IF City and the PL 6 teams get in AND get to stay in the Premier League, they would be absolutely MINTED. Would make the league very strong, especially those 6.
I can't see the PL actually excluding them, they will back down.
They are fuc*ed to, that what the problem is, the dream is over.Well there's always Stockport County Oldham athletic etc..;)