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[Nellies left peg]

At last some common sense!!!
I echo your sentiments.
You’ve been offered a place at the top table of football. It’s what we’ve been after as a club since we had the financial means.
Refusing to be involved would be biting your nose off to spite your face!
It’s what our owner has been aiming for all along I suspect and anything that fucks off UEFA is more than welcome!
Nobody really likes change but I am sure a lot of those who feel very negatively about this will come round (if it ever happens that is...)

I think you don't know the city fan base very well. Our fans generally are not johnny come lately glory hunting shit houses like the rags and I can't see us taking this well

 

[Cheesy]

At last some common sense!!!
I echo your sentiments.
You’ve been offered a place at the top table of football. It’s what we’ve been after as a club since we had the financial means.
Refusing to be involved would be biting your nose off to spite your face!
It’s what our owner has been aiming for all along I suspect and anything that fucks off UEFA is more than welcome!
Nobody really likes change but I am sure a lot of those who feel very negatively about this will come round (if it ever happens that is...)

Nah, because many of us remember where we come from and care about football as a whole.

The majority of us aren't selfish twats who don't give a flying fuck about other clubs.

 

[andyhinch]

It's a bit different when you're sat in front of a camera and have to act enthusiastic.

That’s why I have a fluffer.

 

[Cobwebcat]

manchester city have to be part of any new super league and makes no sense in not signing up
football and european football needs a revamp and if city are not involved it will still happen. at lease this way we get a vote and a say on the board and any rules have to be voted

manchester city had to change to keep up ? there was no way manchester city was winning a single thing other than promotion and relegation. its was that simple and its the same thing with signing up to the super league

i don't understand why all the moaning is about. from what i heard and seen its a reforming of the champions league and not the premier league ? ok the league cup will be lost to the super league teams. but in farness its one of the lowest competition and they all ready play weaken teams in it

am a old fart and manchester city will be forever in my soul and blood nobody can take the memories away
like a old fart hate changes but in football they happen all the time and if you don't keep up with them you are lost to the also rans

MANCHESTER CITY ARE A BIG CLUB and thank god we are in a place to be seen as a big club and can take on the big boys and beat them

There will be no competition it will be a show

 

[JoeD]

Agreed on the American influence and no promotion and relegation.

I think a concession could work on that?

Maybe protection for the two years for the supposed founder members but then promotion and relegation, offering the five extra places to highest placed teams in respective leagues?

I do think the group stages of Champs League are shite and if there was relegation and promotion after the first season or something, I would be cool with it.

That's the bit where absolutely no compromise will be made in my opinion.

The clubs signed up especially for this clause. Do you really think that the Spuds would compromise? Or both of the Milan teams? Renounce to that unbelievable amount of cash with no risk whatsoever and return to the crap (by then) PL, if they've been kicked out? Not a single chance in hell.

You might put the interests of your club above everything else but the whole thing stinks, even for your club. You're also not on the board and you won't have a say on how the Super League will be run in the future. This falls on... well your worst enemies.

THE CL as it is and will be is shite, we all agree on that, but if you think any second that the Super League is a better alternative, you're in for one hell of a disappointment. By one of the board members admission it's only about money, they don't give a rat's ass about the football quality.

 

[BlueRain]

Only if they continue to pay current PL wages? They would have to cut their cloth and the players would have to do the same as where else can they go? If they cannot go in the super league, all other leagues will be weakened as well so the PL would actually be at the forefront still as even without the big six we have bigger clubs than any other national league.

This is very true but I fear for the PL if the "big 6" (I hate using that phrase when talking about City - It feels corrupt somehow) get thrown out - or even devalue the leage by playing B teams at weekends etc. The TV money is a big deal but so is sponsorships and they could take a hit too... we know it's possible to run a club with less money (pay less wages, have less staff etc) but a LOT less money?

This is all guesswork and worse case scenario stuff anyway - for all we know the national leagues will cave in and not sanction anyone, those ESL teams will still play decent squads every weekend and we have a new league to watch midweek...

 

[blue61]

The biggest influence on the outcome I would suggest is the players and their union. If they are under threat and expulsion from League, tournaments and cups we might see solidarity. Without the players there is no ESL, its as simple as that. I just can't see the top players being confined to ESL no matter how much they are paid.
Players are yet to show their hand but it will be significant if and when they do.

 

[lazerblue]

They will 100 per cent sign up but with the need to win a members vote - they will wait until everyone else has signed up and then ask fans do you want to be playing the European elite or Augsburg or Mainz next weekend. Bayern will 100 per cent sign up - they long since outgrew the Bundesliga.

But first they'll convince everyone that they've been dragged into it kicking and screaming

 

[Damocles]

MK Dons? It's happened before, all that is standing in the way of other clubs ATM is that the authorities won't allow it anymore. Bypass the authorities and...

They *are* making it more like the US system already, by getting rid of relegation. They don't understand how things work over here. People who work with them say the same. And they think in terms of marketability, which includes moving to a bigger market, and rebranding from time to time to follow the latest trends.

Americans don't like football. I don't know why I have to keep saying this - it's about the sixth most popular sport on TV over there and this predicted US boom has never emerged.
And who are these people who don't know how things work in European football? Flo Perez? Agnelli?

 

[urban genie]

When Disney bought Fox and stuck the X-men films on their marvel rosta, they clasified them as "Legacy films" a franchise term for not really wanted but stuck with them anyway.

Exactly what calling us Legacy fans means too.

Fucking prick whoever said it.

 

[dhruvblue]

What if players outright say we won't play in this competition then? Assuming they are not banned from NT but what if players voluntarily say no?

 

[kwm1988]

Utterly sunk by this. Can't really think straight and i've just been achingly sad since last night. It probably doesn't help now that I'm also possibly out of a job given my youtube channel was a full time endeavour. Emotionally and professionally devastated tbh.

Sorry to hear that man , big fan of the channel , lets see how it plays out , early days as yet .

 

[decmancity]

So to make this clear; you are perfectly happy with a Champions League that has been putting into place an unofficial top four for years, perfectly happy with having a billionaire owner artificially inflate the club competitively through investment, perfectly happy with that owner being of extremely questionable moral character and being the Deputy Prime Minister in a state whose laws are from the 15th century in many social areas, and perfectly happy with us essentially bending the UEFA rules on investment to every possible degree?

All of that you'd continue on. But moving to a different European competition, now THAT'S your line? Not the fact that we had a Gulf state put a billion pounds into us to ensure our "competitiveness"? That didn't hurt the domestic league?

You're overreacting and I think that eventually you and many others will come to your senses on this whole thing. You might not like it but you'll get over it enough to continue.

Superb post.

 

[M18CTID]

With the income the SL would generate, tickets wouldn’t even account for 8% of revenue. I’m sure they could make tickets £10 and fill the place up.

Who are they going to fill it with Sam? If tens of thousands of regular match-goers at each club vote with their feet that’s an awful lot of spaces to fill. Mark my words, this isn’t just a few hundred or a couple of thousand dissenters - numbers which can easily be replaced - at each club. Even when the hysteria dies down a bit, we’re talking a huge percentage of regular match goers at each club knocking this shite on the head.

 

[twosips]

So to make this clear; you are perfectly happy with a Champions League that has been putting into place an unofficial top four for years, perfectly happy with having a billionaire owner artificially inflate the club competitively through investment, perfectly happy with that owner being of extremely questionable moral character and being the Deputy Prime Minister in a state whose laws are from the 15th century in many social areas, and perfectly happy with us essentially bending the UEFA rules on investment to every possible degree?

All of that you'd continue on. But moving to a different European competition, now THAT'S your line? Not the fact that we had a Gulf state put a billion pounds into us to ensure our "competitiveness"? That didn't hurt the domestic league?

You're overreacting and I think that eventually you and many others will come to your senses on this whole thing. You might not like it but you'll get over it enough to continue.

No, I was never perfectly happy with any of those things, but I was guilty of being used to them, they were normalised elsewhere while City were basically crap, and then one day I woke up and we had joined the party. Had no idea what to make of it all tbh. None of us did. Everyone just carried on and we got used to it, cos as much as we spent it at least felt like nothing we hadn't seen before. This though, well it feels different, cos it is I think. It's a vastly bigger step because of the clearer, stronger and obvious effects to the domestic game. We're all a bit hypocritical, but we also all have our limits, and that's inherently human. There's a reason this has sent shockwaves around football and got to the point where its being debated by politicians and not just us City fans - I would guess it's because its clearly a bigger step, and one too far for the vast majority of football fans, and the reaction has proven that. I get it, you're not arsed, fair enough, but this unquestionably changes the game much more structurally than anything else has in my lifetime. There is also no way the domestic league don't changes exponentially from this for the worse, the cups included, and that is something im not used to either.

Edit - and I didn't even mention the lack of competitiveness. I know there's a strong argument that that had already spiritually gone, but it was technically still there and still open. Now it isn't. It's a members only club, and that is a bigger change to anything we've seen in god knows how long. Competitions without relegation and promotion are absolutely the pits for me. They're utterly soulless.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Mainly jam.

lovely

 

[roubaixtuesday]

You're overreacting and I think that eventually you and many others will come to your senses on this whole thing. You might not like it but you'll get over it enough to continue

Nah.

This is an attempt to turn footie from a competitive sport into an exhibitionfor extraction of maximum cash at minimum risk.

Ironically it runs a significant risk of killing the golden goose - it actually removes from football what makes it compelling.

Nobody will care if they lose matches in this excuse for sport because they'll still be there next season anyway.

Think Newcastle but without the threat of relegation.

 

[SWPISHOME]

When Disney bought Fox and stuck the X-men films on their marvel rosta, they clasified them as "Legacy films" a franchise term for not really wanted but stuck with them anyway.

Exactly what calling us Legacy fans means too.

Fucking prick whoever said it.

Exactly. Fans that watched their team play home and away for decades, Spending their hard earned on money from a tough weeks work to watch their football team play, You could have your last £50 in your pocket and spend it on your club.
And then to be called a "legacy fan".

Fucking bastards.

 

[Woody135]

Maybe I have too much pride then, as it feels like id be selling my soul to lie about enjoying the destruction of the domestic game. I just don't know if I can do that every day.

Just watched your stream from last night mate. Bang on the money and exactly how i’m feeling also. Keep speaking for what matters and we’ll see where we end up

 

[Bunk]

There are no words to describe how disappointed I am with the club upon the back of this announcement. This Super League is merely a cynical attempt to guarantee highly lucrative European football every season for an elite clique of clubs and their greedy owners without having to earn that right on the pitch. I hope The Premier League, The FA, UEFA and FIFA apply the most barbaric sanctions possible in an attempt to stop this.

I’ve supported City for nearly 30 years. I will terminate my support of the club if they proceed as planned.