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[malg]

I don’t like the plan either. I was pulling up someone calling the Sheikh “a **** who needs to get the fuck off out of our club”.

Someone on here said that?

 

[Maly]

I specifically said, we've been a constant in there for the last ten years - because we were bankrolled into it. That's us being in our closed shop in that competition, like Real, Barca etc. Not a one off like Everton.

And my point for your highlighted bit is that I dreamed of being involved in the CL when we were shit. Now we've been in it for a decade and will now, if this happens, push on with the other elite clubs to a new competition. I won't slate that when I dreamed of just one season, when the person who has spent our way to a decade in the competition I dreamt about being in.

So because we’ve been invited as an elite club, you’re all for it, but if we were still that mid table club you wouldn’t be for it?

Like I said, hypocritical

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Then you'll be equally annoyed by the announcement that the Champions League will offer guaranteed places to the bigger clubs?

The competition needed slimming down not expanding, there are far too many predictable matches which noone wants to watch.

It's tough to find a solution as the self-anointed "Big six" will only be happy if they have a permanent place in the conpetition which obviously reduces the competitiveness and credibility of it.

It made me laugh reading Joel Glazer going on about the "football pyramid." There is no pyramid if you close off the opportunity for clubs to progress higher up.

This morning I was confident that this was a bargaining tactic on the part of the clubs involved. After hearing Ceferin and others quotes from today I'm less confident a deal will be agreed between UEFA and the ESL clubs. Very worrying times for all those that care about the future of the sport.

This could split the whole sport. A bit like the Rugby Union/RL split. If City, Real, and Chelsea are thrown out of this year's CL there will be no way back. It will have to go to court. I think this is a fight to the death between UEFA and some of the biggest clubs. No one will back down.
Whatever the merits of any new form of European football competition to introduce this in the middle of a pandemic in such a tactless way seems incredibly stupid. I think it is a perfect storm. The Glazers are on their uppers financially, as are Real Madrid, Barca, and most of the others. It smacks of desperation.

 

[hilts]

Exactly.......

They would stand on someone’s head in a river to keep their shoes dry. There’s something very Tory like about them. Fake prizes for fans who lack any sporting morality.

 

[BimboBob]

Please don't post the names of posters who voted in favour of City joining the Super League. Please report anyone who does as this isn't the easiest thread to follow. Thanks.

Was it you? Was it? I bet it was. Posting like you are a mod. Coming across all high and mighty.

Well pal, I've outed you and I'll get the rest. Just you see, don't leave the window open at night, watch out as you cross the road and don't hang around when you pop out for that loaf you forgot.

Imagine having a different opinion than most on here. Heathen.

 

[Cheeky Txiki]

 

[kaz7]

Klopp denying he knew anything about it, the managers have been told to keep quiet

Waffling but saying nothing

 

[Marvin]

So you’ve got ‘an opinion’ to quote and I’m delighted for you but, I repeat, not all cartels are illegal and the breakaway group will undoubtedly have engaged very specialist opinion from the very highest echelons before starting out on their course.
They won’t have just had an opinion, they’d not be doing this without absolute confidence because quite literally £billions on their money is at stake and being wrong isn’t allowed in those circumstances.

I should add that I think the whole shebang is morally corrupt, and that I wish it wasn’t happening, but I’m not so fucking stupid as to let myself think that they’ll have forgotten to do the basics of due diligence.

The odds of an ESL must be tiny. If I were City I'd be in damage limitation mode.

We signed up to something that was deeply deeply unpopular with supporters and that's because they don't engage with fans.

This was not a City priority. That's almost certain. Tat imo makes this absolutely inept.

I will accept one excuse...we were forced into doing something that we didn't want to do...but that will only stand if we make a very rapid exit now that the writing is on the wall.

 

[Nellies left peg]

None of the six teams would speak to sky

Too busy giving exclusive interviews to Jim White for Talksport as he's universally loved

 

[SWP's back]

Someone on here said that?

Kazzydeyna

 

[Bozo]

Klopp you fucking coward.

 

[malg]

No we won't. You better take in all the legal shitstorm that's coming our way too and players who can't play international football fucking off, probably Pep too. It's football's equivalent of Kerry Packers cricket fiasco.

You might not. I'll still go to PL games.

 

[Sheriff Fatman]

yeah but not really representative of the growth in football for decades . Seems those at the top now are cashing in while they can and closing the door On everyone else.

great example to society.

What next all the rich folk in the uk move to a part of the uk and build a big wall round it and hospitals and schools and security and say fuck it we are the rich people , we deserve all our money now. You poor people can make your own way with your own money we deserve all our own wealth. you are on your own now and you cannot come in our club.

Isn't that the Royal Family?

 

[Clevers]

Is it fashionable to say bad things about government all the time?

No but it's true about all governments.

However it will be interesting to see what FIFA do if the government acts. They usually ban associations that are influenced by governments when it comes to football matters.

 

[Cheesy]

Crucial game for Liverpool tonight in their attempt to qualify for the CL.

Oh.

 

[burning blue soul]

Real 'n Barca will, after the first season or so, treat the ESL the same way they have treated La Liga for some time. 'We are the Spanish teams that the world wants to see; we should get the lion's share of the TV money! " There are a number of teams who are throwing their weight behind this venture who, in the past, have shown themselves to be rather untrustworthy. I would have preferred City to have kept them at arm's length, using Tyson Fury's arms as the measure.

And his fist, a couple of rabbit punches wouldn't go amiss!

 

[Bluster]

What next all the rich folk in the uk move to a part of the uk and build a big wall round it and hospitals and schools and security and say fuck it we are the rich people , we deserve all our money now. You poor people can make your own way with your own money we deserve all our own wealth. you are on your own now and you cannot come in our club.

What next?!!!
Where have you been? :)

 

[Rascal]

I don't believe a word of that. Just covering their backs.

You don't have too believe anything.

I do believe the person who told me.

 

[Withnail]

Been working all day, so not had chance to read too much of this thread. Not happy at all that City have committed to the ESL, it stinks of greed, money and unfortunately this is the way that football is going now.

It seems none of the clubs involved including City gives two shits about the fans in all this which is really sad. I personally can't see this going ahead with all the opposition, but it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.

 

[mccity]

Word is from my man.

Pep is seriously unimpressed with this, City were pushed into it, the club panicked as the others had signed up.

Direct quote " These things seldom end as they begin"

I can believe that. For City and Chelsea, as much as they maybe disagreed with this, the potential ramifications of not joining could be relatively catastrophic if it were to backfire. It's all well and good having principles but saying no to this could have destroyed years of hard work by both clubs.

I feel both clubs lost out to a power play here, in the same way UEFA are about to with all of this.

Perez, Agnelli, and the US owners we have to thank for this motion.