The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I don't get how people don't understand this. No one - NO ONE - thinks UEFA or the Premier League or the Champions League is a paragon of virtue or civic minded charity. But at it's very core it's a competition that West Ham or Leicester or Everton or Man City, through good management, investment, good luck or a mixture of the three, can work towards. Yes, the scales or rigged, yes that's easier said than done, but it's clear to everyone how you do that. This breaks that, and it breaks it in a way where there is no going back. The CL can always be rejigged or reformed, for better or worse, but this shatters 70 years of national football's relationship to European football and is just deeply, grossly unfair. Of all the fans, you'd hope City fans understand this. They've used a pandemic to pull a trigger on something that if it happened 10 years ago would have killed us dead.

We aren't bigger or more important than Newcastle, Derby, West Ham, Everton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and so on and so on, we are just having a good run. We don't deserve a good run forever, no one does.

I think we have our new banner.............

 

[mat]

Bloody hell

james corden

take a bow

Channeled his inner Smiffy.

 

[MarsLlama]

I see it is already a closed shop, if West Ham were to qualify for CL they have two choices. Invest heavily to compete with the likes of us and PSG, and risk a Leeds style collapse if it turns to shit or hope they finish third and get the Thursday night cup. A quick look at the winners of the CL for the last twenty years shows the lack of any real competition.

That's a contradiction right there in your first two sentences. The fact that West Ham can qualify for the CL means it's not a closed shop.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Just a tad hypocritical that, IMO.

And I haven't heard him moaning about clubs' spending at all.

Neville isn't moaning about money, he is completely against the power held by the clubs and wants regulation at that level and he is 100% correct, it needs regulation.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

If this has taught me anything it is that there are people out there who hate Gary neville more than they love City.

This is bad news for us.
This is bad news for football.
This is immoral.
This is just flat out wrong on every level.

Rest assured we (City) are being played and we will be the biggest overall losers from this is we don't get out from under it immediately.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

With regards to what Tolmie posted, just imagine if this agreement in principle from ourselves was hatched with us to then leak the intention of its creation, forcing the instigators to resign and leave their UEFA/ECA positions, show the clubs involved true colours to the world

All whilst still meeting with ceferin to say - we are not the enemy, look at what your supposed glory clubs have done

We then pull out leaving this lot pissing into the wind

fingers crossed

The phrase 'clutching at straws' springs to mind....

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Like Moshiri won't pick up the phone if Perez rang him today.

“You take part in society” is a horseshit excuse. And I’m surprised people on here keep trying to make it. Everton are in the right here.

 

[lee_wsm]

City find a way out of this before it’s too late

 

[Claytop]

Like Moshiri won't pick up the phone if Perez rang him today.

Exactly, not one of the Prem club owners would turn this down if offered.

Not that it makes it anymore acceptable but the self righteous speeches from those who were never going to get be involved is tiring.

 

[BillyShears]

Yes, they want a guaranteed return on their investment, the ESL concept gives them that guarantee. Mansour is no different. The only difference would be accepting a longer timeframe to see that return than your average venture capitalist.

Silver Lake, an American equity fund, bought a 10% share in CFG. You reckon they were buying in for the romance or a healthy return on that investment? How do you think they would react if City passed on an invite to join a franchise model with 11 of the biggest clubs in world football and a guaranteed £350m sign on payment?

There's emotion, romance, and football fandom. Then there's the realities of a board of directors and the fiduciary duties of that board. Your post is pot on.

The question of returns is really at the root of this. The Americans want to jack their returns up and FAST. Roman and Mansour can probably afford to sit on the asset for another ten years, but the reality is with Silver Lake at the table also and with the harsh fact that they are going to go and head and try and do this regardless of City's stance, City had little choice.

Be on the outside pissing in or on the inside pissing out.

 

[MCFC1993]

Like Moshiri won't pick up the phone if Perez rang him today.

Many said the same about Bayern and PSG too, yet they stood firm.

 

[00 years]

Let this play out personally I would of liked City to step away from the proposal but UEFA’s new champions league proposals are all about points for the history boys in the competition which stinks , anyone else hear the statement by
Aleksander Čeferin saying he had a meeting with Woodward earlier in the day as he wanted to discuss FFP no time for any of the wankers

 

[roubaixtuesday]

it would be better for them if the invited clubs finished bottom.

It doesn't really matter to them - it won't affect their income stream either way.

Whatever the criteria are to be in those 5, the 5 have got to meet them (win domestic league, go through play offs etc) *and* compete in the same year's ESL if they're going to maintain their cashflow.

That'll be nigh on impossible competing against 15 clubs who don't need to give two fucks about their domestic league position, so will play their best players in the ESL (who will be paid far more than those from the 5).

So it'll be a rotating 5 almost certainly, with a financial position so much weaker they can't compete on two fronts.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Yesterday I was dead against this. Having read more about it, seen how upset those c#nts at UEFA and the FA are, the faux vested interest anger of tw#ts like Neville and spit. The hilarity of newspaper hacks like winter banging on about "grass roots", which they don't cover.
The irony of Gary "he looks a good player doesn't he Al?? "I believe you noticed something Jermaine" 1M a year Lineker talking about greed; I'm not so sure.

 

[give it to gordon]

Bloody hell

james corden

take a bow

Fuck me james Corden has brought me to tears .

 

[Metal Biker]

I don't know why some people are saying the Super League is the 'future of football'. It is exactly what it is; a quick cash grab and injection of wealth for clubs that are inundated with debt and due to COVID are petrified about going under that feel the financial structure of the Champions League isn't enough.

It's nothing to do with the 'good of the game' or 'saving football'. City and Chelsea are effectively being used to use our billions to bail out Real Madrid and the Rags, two clubs that wished to impose financial restrictions on us to prevent us from competing with them. Or have people suddenly forgotten that?

 

[BobKowalski]

The idea that City would jump into bed with the five signatories of that infamous letter, who tried everything in their power to fuck us over once and for all, is worse.

You can harp on all day about how great it must feel to be the rags in blue, but I'm not buying it. The Super League is a load of shite, the rich positioning themselves in a place to get richer and have no threat of relegation, while shutting out any chance their power could shift to other clubs based on merit or effort. It's bollocks.

This whole situation is slimey as fuck and if this is what City are now then I'm out. You and the 98 others can sit back and feel some sense of pride as our manager picks the under 21s for the weekend's meaningless Premier League clash - assuming the League simply don't dump us.

I’m against the idea. But me being against something doesn’t mean I can’t see the reality of the situation.

City were never going to pass on an invite to be a founding member of a Super League with 11 of the biggest clubs. At a minimum it gives them leverage when the ESL founders sit down with UEFA to thrash out a deal. City want, need, to be at the top table making the decisions that matter going forward. That’s just the reality.

 

[half & half derby scarf]

No. It may as well be a touring production of Strictly come Dancing, with a faux 'competition', a lttle token trophy for the winners who will be showered in glitter and confetti and then go for drinks with all the other players at the wrap party. The tourist in the seats will love it as they get to see their favourite dancer/player. They'll probably set up a voting system (texts costs 50p plus your standing network charge folks) so you can vote for the best outfit, or maybe you can vote for who gets in next seasons production.
Can't wait.

I'd go for Ederson's pink top, pink shorts, pink tights, pink boots myself with a bonus point for the dexterity he shows when rushing off his line.

 

[decmancity]

Exactly, not one of the Prem club owners would turn this down if offered.

Neither will any of the players currently playing for any of the other 14 clubs. Maybe they should release a statement through the PFA, something like "As current players of the remaining 14 clubs we will refuse any moves to any of the ESL clubs", will they fuck. Its business and they want part of the gravy train if they get the chance.

Many said the same about Bayern and PSG too, yet they stood firm.

They have their own reasons and can afford it, Everton can't.

 

[Gio's mate]

If we are going to back away from this, we need to be the first to do so to salvage any kind of credibility.