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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
oakiecokie said:
An excellent and well thought out article.
Pity some fans can`t get the gist of this.
Our Owner and his staff would have taken the view "damned if we do, damned if we don`t".
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I think the idea that City didn't know about the proposed breakaway until the Thursday but signed on the Saturday is somewhat preposterous.

Personally I didn't and don't have a problem with what City did. The executives in charge are tasked with protecting and growing Man City and that's what they did. They acted in the best interests of the bottom line of City which is what I would always expect them to do.

However, this narrative emerging that poor ikkle City were victims from those mean cartel bullies is ridiculous. We knew what we were doing.

I think you're probably right in that we weighed it up and thought better to be pissing out than in.
 
SWP's back said:
Mate, literally two hours before it fell apart you were telling everyone that the decision had been made an no club would change their mind so I’ll take your insistence that the article was a) a plant and b) makes us look grotesquely out of touch with a pinch or two of salt.
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The very last thing Ian Herbert is is City’s favourite reporter. Fully signed up WhatsApp Group twat who was famously singled out by Liam G as a ‘PISSFLAP’
 
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BlueRain said:
I'm not sure where this notion that the ESL was replacing the PL has come from but it wasn't that at all - it was replacing the CL
It was an extra comp / league that was potentially going to give our rivals a huge boost - I can 100% see why City (relunctantly) said yes to it.

I can see i've opened a can of worms here and maybe I came across a bit strong - 1st thing in the morning isn't my best time of day lol.

I still stand by what I said though - football is a business, you need lots of money to be the best and our owners want that for the club...

Was it an error of judgement - yes and no... maybe I'm a glass half full type of guy but I really believe that our board did this without malice or the intent to "screw the fans over" like some are suggesting. From a business point of view it was a no brainer - from a fans point of view though... well I think we all (me included) thought the ESL was extremely bad for football.

The owners of the other 5 English clubs (with the exception of possibly Chelsea) no doubt saw a way of making themselves richer though and thankfully our owners don't leech every last penny that they can get out of our club
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It would have terminally weakened the league if we’d been allowed to stay in it - playing the reserves for league games and the first team for the ESL, with league games eventually moved to midweek, no doubt - and anyway the likelihood is we would have been chucked out of it, quite rightly I think.
 
I really hope others fans wake up and see what these American owners are really like.
The press/media always paint City as the bad guy as the press/media lick the dippers and utd arses. Yet it's clear twice in the last few months liverpool and utd have worked together to try and change English football for their own benefit.

The press/media have alot to answer for, they have fed the fans of these American clubs lies after lies after lies. Ignore the way their fans behaviour, ignore the way some of their players behave on and off the field.
They employe hundreds of ex utd and dippers in the press/media players to spout the lover of their teams, and hatred towards City. Just last week BT commentary on City v Dortmund for example very anti City.
The press/media have allowed these American own teams to think they are untouchable. Hopefully the press/media will now turn on these American clubs and see them for what they really are. A danger to our game.

City have spent millions redeveloping East Manchester, the campus, statium give to the NHS, work in the community.
The American clubs just take mostly, do enough to keep their teams near the top but dont spend in their communities.

The premier league and UEFA need to start removing directors of these club from the ruling bodies of the premier league and UEFA.

Yes City have taken a bloody nose on this ESL. But that's not forget the teams behind this mostly American and G14 clubs most of these clubs have huge debt. It still seems very odd that City were invited to join the ESL.

City will get abuse from other clubs for abit but I dont think City would have been the driving force in this.

It's clear it's the American clubs and G14 clubs behide this because they are badly run with huge debt.
 
Gray said:
Why do all the headlines put Chelsea first, surely that is not correct. The media can not help themselves can they?
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Who gives a shit? All six clubs acted horrendously and trying to claim some sort of points for pulling out first is like saying well done to someone for being the first of a group of six people to stop beating the shit out of someone.
 
Keeper! said:
I find that difficult to believe that a club run by a man as clever and powerful as Khaldon Al Mubarak would be rushed into making a monumental decision in the space of a few hours.

This has gone on for months, the club have known about this for months, they f%%ed up, end of story, spin what you want, we f%%ed up, but at least we have come to our senses if damaged.
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Completely agree - the idea that we were unaware of this and somehow bounced into joining at the last minute is simply untenable. Ridiculous even.

The US-based owners had their own game plan - i.e. replicating the structure which exists in their other, franchise-based sports investments - and the poor performance of Arsenal and the Scousers this season meant that CL participation next season and the associated cash is very doubtful. Meanwhile, the financial difficulties of the others is common knowledge. It’s hardly rocket science to deduce that clubs which have embarked on phenomenally expensive stadium projects during or shortly before a pandemic would be desperate for cash. Dissatisfaction over the CL reforms may have been the final factor which pushed the trigger on the breakaway.

Either way, we would have been primed for a breakaway move, and frankly if we weren’t, then it would have represented a gross failing of our management which should result in heads rolling regardless of any Fall-guy move. Granted, the timing may not have been to our choosing, but we cannot have been unprepared.

As for the conspiracy theories, there may be an element of this but in my view that’s wishful thinking. Handling something uncharacteristically poorly is not proof of conspiracy, and our actions have not been without cost. First, the past couple of days has alienated a significant share of the support, and second we can’t be certain at the moment what the implications will be. UEFA may be glad to have us back, and the previous structure may have been unstable in any case, but we have helped stir up a hornets’ nest and we could now be vulnerable to change from a period of at least domestic dominance.

We could be debating this for years but at the moment my view is that we have had a very bad couple of days in the office. The statements from the club over the next few days will be fascinating.
 
John Henry video apology now released. Fair play for facing the camera, none of our lot will, but as if anyone is going to accept it.
 
DAGW said:
That’s a glass overflowing way of squaring it, and if you can do it and forgive the club, more power to you.

I look at the way our owners have operated in the past, meticulously planning and strategising, and struggle to accept that they would sign up to something at the last minute, without first knowing the ins and outs. Their track record tells me that they were complicit in this.

Don’t get me wrong, if it’s the case that they were complicit, I understand from a business perspective why they would want to rake in millions, but it’s going to take some very frank explanations and apologies before I call it water under the bridge.

Either that or Khaldoon gets put on the UEFA board, Ceferin acknowledges that City blew the whistle from within weeks ago and the club get lauded as saviours of the game. The cards have landed in a manner that aligns suspiciously well with that conspiracy theory - but equally the glass would be floating in an ocean, never mind half full.

I for one will sit and await the explanations and apologies, glad that the plan went up in smoke, but ashamed that our hands probably aren’t clean.
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How methodical and measured approach CFG have taken over everything would lead me to believe that we were rushed into this or there is a master plan. I’m certainly not convinced on the master plan bit. I’m also not convinced that people as powerful as Mubarak & Sheikh Mansour would reverse a long thought out measured decision based on very short term public reaction..

I really don’t know though and I’m simply playing devils advocate. I think we could all agree that this last 48 hours are far more indicative of our past than our present.
 
So as the dust begins to settle everything is back to normal, Sky rule, the dippers and rags are the best thing since sliced bread and we are run by a country and break all the rules. Oh well. C'est la vie.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Did you think it would all come for free? Those players, the stadium redesign, the managers before Pep, and the ultimate man at the helm himself?
We aren't the City all nicey nice a Maine Road and haven't been since 2008. None of this will have been thought about though when those trophies kept rolling in and we got to a place where we can place arguably one of the best players in the world on a £400k a week contract.
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No mate - I'm still fuming over this in spite of all of the above............
 
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