Coronavirus (2021) thread

[True_Blue69]

So we're on to the Sheffield Variant now?

Just so I can keep track...

Got to find a new one not the Indian one isn’t a worry with vaccines.

 

[mcfc_ms]

Yay! Here comes the Argentinian variant!

hopefully it’s about as effective as Veron at the rags rather than a Tevez or Sergio

 

[ultimateharold]

Does anyone know if they do end of day "spares" at the Etihad? Taking someone on Saturday and it would be nice if I could help avoid one going to waste

Plenty queueing for spares where I went yesterday, but looked like a long wait.

 

[feelymcfeel]

going to end up with more variants than pronouns.

Check your variant privilege.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Check your variant privilege.

depends which one I feel like having today. See where my mood takes me.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Supermarkets in Florida now allowing people to enter without a mask if they have had both shots. No evidence needed to prove that either!

 

[Healdplace]

On BBC News just announced track and trace messed up and did not notify local areas about the cases that seem to have triggered the Indian variant wave for three weeks. Preventing measures being taken early, Amongst those areas not notified were Blackburn and Blackpool in the NW.

A 'glitch' in the system was blamed.

Surely the whole system is the glitch if it fails to pass on key data about what it was created to prevent?

 

[Healdplace]

Wales Data:

1 death - was 1 last week

45 cases - was 59 last week

0.4% positivity - was 0.4% last week

 

[Healdplace]

ZOE APP DATA

Predicted Cases 2640 DOWN 109 from yesterday.

North West UP even more today to highest level it has been in months. Top of all UK now.

Predicted symptomatic cases also up again to 36, 397 - a rise of 778 in day. Though a rise 300 less than yesterday.






NORTH WEST NUMBERS



(Predicted active cases / Estimated cases per million population locally / Both V yesterday)


BOLTON 183 / 646 V 386 / 1361 - Another fall takes it out of being an area of concern (over 1000 on the second number).

Indeed the NW now has no red zone areas at all for first time in a week or two on Zoe.


Others GM Areas:-



BURY 107 / 569 v 87 / 463 - another rise here in what is starting to look an area to watch. As you see almost overtaken Bolton's numbers.

MANCHESTER 93 / 170 V 87 / 160 - a small rise only and still not an issue

OLDHAM 47 / 202 V 42 / 178 - slightly up again - another to watch .

ROCHDALE 20 / 92 V 17 / 80 another small rise but low enough not to be a problem

SALFORD 36 / 141 V 25 / 97 - a fourth successive small increase here so need to keep our eyes on here

STOCKPORT 110 / 381 V 91 / 315 - also a fourth successive but again modest rise here. But it needs to be watched.

TAMESIDE 114 / 510 V 28 / 125 - given its recent low cases this is a rather sudden leap up, Keep am eye on this.

TRAFFORD 79 / 338 V 65 / 277 - again matching Stockport with a fourth straight rise

WIGAN 37 / 113 V 36 / 111 - no real change and very low which given proximity to Bolton is very good to see.


Chorley is low but inched up a tad to 19 / 166 v 17 / 146


Fylde (Blackpool) is miles down on 10 / 129 V 8 / 108 - up slightly but seems over the hump



High Peak (Glossop/Whaley Bridge/Buxton) again edges down again on 17 / 184 V 19 / 207 Looks over here.





But according to Zoe the worst areas in UK right now are:-


Aberdeen (Scotland) 1487 / 6579 V 1808 / 8000

STILL WORST AREA IN UK ON ZOE BUT IS DOWN




Newport (Wales) 166 / 1094 V 279 / 3004 - even bigger fall today. Dropped almost off the red list.

North Lanarkshire (Scotland) 1548 / 4575 V 1503 / 4447 - a small rise here on the seconf highest UK region.

The two worst are now in Scotland on Zoe.

Others:-

North Lincolnshire 646 / 3789 - up a bit.

Bedford 594 / 3494 v 625 / 3676 - a small fall

Leeds 2407 / 3071 v 2704 / 3449 - a small fall

Wolverhampton 708 / 2707 V 895 / 3444 - a modest fall here too

Bradford 1759 / 3297 V 1896 / 3554 - small fall

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths

6 with 0 from NW

Last wk 9 with 2, wks before 21 with 1. 13 with 2 and 22 with 3.

Of these 6 only 3 were from the past 7 days.

One was over 3 months ago.

There were 2 in Midlands (1 each in Lincolnshire and Coventry) 2 in London (1 each in University College and Whittington) 1 in East (Mid Essex) and 1 in South East (Medway)

4 (after 5 days on May 15) is the highest number recorded against ANY date in the past 7 days.

May 13 is on 1, May 14 on 2, May 16 on 3, May 17 on 3 , May 18 on 2 and May 19 on 0.

A zero five day death number seems not that far away.

England last had one of those on 19 August.

 

[Healdplace]

907 with 101 in the NW was the England hospital number on the last Thursday in January to compare with today's 6 with 0.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

 

[unicorn]

907 with 101 in the NW was the England hospital number on the last Thursday in January to compare with today's 6 with 0.

Seeing both the North-West and the North-East and Yorkshire report ZERO deaths today (and a Thursday as well) is really comforting in the light of growing cases (from a very low baseline).

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

Saw him this morning, it's a case of what is 'a wave'?

If we're talking infections then yes the numbers are going to go up due to both opening up & the variants but, with vaccinations rocking into the 30 odd year olds now, catching CV in almost all cases isn't going to kill people.

I'd therefore say that infections certainly alone shouldn't be called a wave. Should we get a hospital run or even worse deaths increasing then yeah we would be.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

A little concerning again unfortunately. Cases well up again and hospital numbers still rising. Though as yet deaths not following. If that stays the pattern we can ride this out.


0 deaths - was 1 last week

432 cases - was 270 last week - highest in a while and more than the three nations combined over past few weeks.

1.6% positivity - was 1.2% last week

83 patients - up 5 on yesterday - was 63 last week (30% rise in a week biggest in some time)

5 ventilated - up 1 on yesterday - was 4 last week.

 

[paulchapo]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

I wish all these bloody experts would be gagged. All ithey do is spread fear and misery 24/7 and damage people's mental health. Unless we close all borders to international travel and I mean close them, not with loads of loopholes and exceptions, this is going to keep on happening. We have had other experts tell us the vaccines will protect against almost every variant and those that it doesn't they should be able to tweak them so they do

The only noise about any of this should be coming from the government in official statements. Of course if these experts think the government are lying or have got it wrong challenge them but until then STFU!!!

 

[Toney’s bookie]

I wish all these bloody experts would be gagged. All ithey do is spread fear and misery 24/7 and damage people's mental health. Unless we close all borders to international travel and I mean close them, not with loads of loopholes and exceptions, this is going to keep on happening. We have had other experts tell us the vaccines will protect against almost every variant and those that it doesn't they should be able to tweak them so they do

The only noise about any of this should be coming from the government in official statements. Of course if these experts think the government are lying or have got it wrong challenge them but until then STFU!!!

I don’t follow. Are you seriously saying we should ban international travel forever and so no one should ever be able to leave from or arrive into the UK ever again?

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

Happily they seem not yet to be following the pattern. Maybe the Irish Sea is acting as a barrier?

0 deaths - was 1 last week

90 cases - was 99 last week

3.7% positivity - was 3.9% last week

4 Care Home Outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & 6 last week

7 day rolling cases 598 - was 614 yesterday & 658 last week.

37 patients - same as yesterday - was 46 last week

2 ventilated - same as yesterday - was 3 last week

 

[frothy]

I don’t follow. Are you seriously saying we should ban international travel forever and so no one should ever be able to leave from or arrive into the UK ever again?

Can't believe how many experts we have in this country, everyday MSM find a few more to scare people shitless

 

[artfuldodger]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

He also says, ‘A third wave has always been likely but its size will depend on how transmissible the variant is and how many people are vaccinated, Prof Hayward says.

So nothing we didn’t already know. Maybe a small wave.