Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
The problem with those kind of graphs on vaccinations is they show numbers given and it is not exacty really evidence of the UK being poor at reaching people that countries with populations many times the same size are doing more vaccinations.

They kind of have to do 4 or 5 times as many as us just to reach the same population percentage. And they have 4 or 5 times the resources to do it.

The fairer comparison shows that we have done very well on these measures and Wales is literally in the top two or three nations on the planet not way down as that graph might infer.

The bigger problem we have is not targetting the right populations. The disparity between Manchester and Stockport - literally next to one another with a border - is far too large and regardless of reasons needs to be rebalanced because it is showing up in the cases now happening.

These are the real issues with our vaccination programme that we are seeking to address with pop up centres not some graph that is not wrong in what it says just a bit misleading in what it infers.
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Dutch are taking mobile units into the neighbourhoods where take up is lagging and having them staffed appropriately.
 
Gabriel said:
Dutch are taking mobile units into the neighbourhoods where take up is lagging and having them staffed appropriately.
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Which makes sense. Seems we have taken the decision not to single out areas. Which given now how it has spread everywhere is probably no longer possible as that window when it was mostly the North West and we might have curbed further spread has passed.
 
Healdplace said:
The problem with those kind of graphs on vaccinations is they show numbers given and it is not exacty really evidence of the UK being poor at reaching people that countries with populations many times the same size are doing more vaccinations.

They kind of have to do 4 or 5 times as many as us just to reach the same population percentage. And they have 4 or 5 times the resources to do it.

The fairer comparison shows that we have done very well on these measures and Wales is literally in the top two or three nations on the planet not way down as that graph might infer.

The bigger problem we have is not targetting the right populations. The disparity between Manchester and Stockport - literally next to one another with a border - is far too large and regardless of reasons needs to be rebalanced because it is showing up in the cases now happening.

These are the real issues with our vaccination programme that we are seeking to address with pop up centres not some graph that is not wrong in what it says just a bit misleading in what it infers.
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OK. That's a good point. This is by per capita. China goes from 1st to 2nd. UK was world leading but is now behind most of Europe in terms of current vaccination rates.

In terms of total doses administered per capita it has done very well.

Really though my wow point was the 700m doses administered in recent weeks by China. Real or not, that is an amazing figure. And it also means that when they are done there is going to be huge resources for the rest of the world.

Two big question marks:

1) Is their vaccine effective
2) Are they about to be hit again. They are having problems now.

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I should point out that those countries are the defaults. For example I could have put Turkey in and it should top the lot.
 
Healdplace said:
Which makes sense. Seems we have taken the decision not to single out areas. Which given now how it has spread everywhere is probably no longer possible as that window when it was mostly the North West and we might have curbed further spread has passed.
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In countries where health insurance is obligatory, it is much easier to identify those individuals who have been reluctant, to date, to be vaccinated. You can then plonk a vaccination station outside their very door and use nudges to encourage uptake.
 
1209 cases in Scotland today

21 aged 65+
177 aged 45-64

407 aged 25-44
599 aged 0-24 (Inclusive of 243 aged 0-14)

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2 deaths both aged 75-84

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19k first doses
19k second doses

No idea what's going on here whether supply or otherwise but feels like a concerning slow down which is reflected in UK wide figures too.
 
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