Absolute tripe bud.This never ending saga is all because the club couldn’t keep their IT system secure and allowed a low level hacker access to the entire archive of emails.
Whilst on a football level the club is undeniably well run you have to say that this fundamental lapse in security and the recent ticketing fiasco suggests that operationally it is poor in the extreme. Ordinarily you’d expect heads to roll but that doesn’t seem to be the case so maybe there is a culture of complacency pervading?
Absolute tripe bud.
Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
Apparently he hacked other clubs and individuals as well but for some reason the media wanted to concentrate their efforts on us hmmm..What made him target Man City? If I ever knew I’ve forgotten!
With respect I’d suggest you are deluding yourself.Absolute tripe bud.
Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
I won’t be doing that, but I will show respect to the work he’s done to get kids fed.Yes, stop with this heresy !! All kneel at the mural of St Marcus.
What made him target Man City? If I ever knew I’ve forgotten!
Excellent summaryIn 2020 City were "fined" for refusing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation into alleged breaches of FFPR. CAS felt that the whole matter could have been settled much more quickly, and without reference to CAS, had the club provided UEFA with the documents requested at the outset. City cooperated fully with CAS and the relevant documents, along with City's accounts, showed there was absolutely no evidence at all of any breaches and proved conclusively that the club had not attempted to disguise owner investment as sponsorship income. These latest judgements mean that City will have to hand over documents to the PL arbitration panel which has the right to "investigate". It is, however, hard to see that there can be any material not considered by the exhaustive CAS proceedings and the judges were clearly irritated by the very slow pace at which the PL investigation was proceeding - this is the significance of his remarks about legitimate interest in the transparency of charges, proceedings and judgements, that the club does not yet even know whether it will face any charges at all and that City have won the title twice in the time the PL has taken NOT to reach a decision. It seems the PL are sitting twiddling their thumbs hoping some new evidence will materialise like a genie out of a bottle of whatever SAF's favourite tipple is.
No doubt Pinto was a professional hacker but City were very complacent. Anyone in business knows that emails are not secure for highly sensitive information. They are not appropriate for confidential business matters. Yet our highly-paid senior Execs saw fit to share tactless jokes about the death of a UEFA official and other private financial discussions.Absolute tripe bud.
Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged. I'm confident the Limitation Act will still apply unless the PL accuse City of deception - even then the bar is high under the recent caselaw.
If you could pick 10 guests past and/or present to have round for a dinner party, you'd be getting an invite pal.In 2020 City were "fined" for refusing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation into alleged breaches of FFPR. CAS felt that the whole matter could have been settled much more quickly, and without reference to CAS, had the club provided UEFA with the documents requested at the outset. City cooperated fully with CAS and the relevant documents, along with City's accounts, showed there was absolutely no evidence at all of any breaches and proved conclusively that the club had not attempted to disguise owner investment as sponsorship income. These latest judgements mean that City will have to hand over documents to the PL arbitration panel which has the right to "investigate". It is, however, hard to see that there can be any material not considered by the exhaustive CAS proceedings and the judges were clearly irritated by the very slow pace at which the PL investigation was proceeding - this is the significance of his remarks about legitimate interest in the transparency of charges, proceedings and judgements, that the club does not yet even know whether it will face any charges at all and that City have won the title twice in the time the PL has taken NOT to reach a decision. It seems the PL are sitting twiddling their thumbs hoping some new evidence will materialise like a genie out of a bottle of whatever SAF's favourite tipple is.
Hi Tolm. Clearly many fans are worried and also angry about the repetition in these attacks. Your chum analogy is great yet can be seen with a slightly different perspective. Apparently, in layman terms sharks can detect 3 drops of blood in a volume of water equivalent to that found in a municipal swimming pool. The Mail need only discover titbits of information which they can then spin to their hearts content over several weeks. Job done and worth the trouble and investment to those who hate us.
Do you have any impression how worried our leaders are about this?
It looks as if the PL are adopting the same failed strategy as UEFA. They are leaving the investigation "on the table" to placate our commercial rivals, specifically LFC and MUFC. But they have absolutely no evidence and are not actually carrying out any investigation. They are happy for the "stench" to remain around City in the meantime.In 2020 City were "fined" for refusing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation into alleged breaches of FFPR. CAS felt that the whole matter could have been settled much more quickly, and without reference to CAS, had the club provided UEFA with the documents requested at the outset. City cooperated fully with CAS and the relevant documents, along with City's accounts, showed there was absolutely no evidence at all of any breaches and proved conclusively that the club had not attempted to disguise owner investment as sponsorship income. These latest judgements mean that City will have to hand over documents to the PL arbitration panel which has the right to "investigate". It is, however, hard to see that there can be any material not considered by the exhaustive CAS proceedings and the judges were clearly irritated by the very slow pace at which the PL investigation was proceeding - this is the significance of his remarks about legitimate interest in the transparency of charges, proceedings and judgements, that the club does not yet even know whether it will face any charges at all and that City have won the title twice in the time the PL has taken NOT to reach a decision. It seems the PL are sitting twiddling their thumbs hoping some new evidence will materialise like a genie out of a bottle of whatever SAF's favourite tipple is.
Get a room!If you could pick 10 guests past and/or present to have round for a dinner party, you'd be getting an invite pal.
Putting a like to your post doesn't seem enough
Tolm. Thanks for the reply. I guess the FAs disinterest and response to the hacking (as recently mentioned) and the punishment meted out to Wayne Rooney’s Derby County and others who have sinned against FFP should provide us with some reassurance that even if skeletons do emerge the punishment is likely to be limited. If they want go down the misrepresentation of accounts or accounting practices i foresee a heap of litigation and a lawyers dream.Absolutely none. We clearly treated it seriously enough to pay the top legal people to try and win the appeal.
I suspect it might have more to do with the third part ownership accusations and image right set-up, as that is another area of attack.
This investigation is linked to the Der Spiegel accusations from late 2018 that UEFA also investigated us for.Tolm. Thanks for the reply. I guess the FAs disinterest and response to the hacking (as recently mentioned) and the punishment meted out to Wayne Rooney’s Derby County and others who have sinned against FFP should provide us with some reassurance that even if skeletons do emerge the punishment is likely to be limited. If they want go down the misrepresentation of accounts or accounting practices i foresee a heap of litigation and a lawyers dream.
i do understand the clubs reluctance to disclose heaps of material. There is bound to be something that is damaging or is even innocent but that could be spun against us.
If the Club are worried about the third party ownership with the Dare to Dream etc and worry (say) about another transfer embargo they should get their skates on and get some players signed.
Its probably FFP I think as the investigation started the day after the UEFA one but it’s not impossible it’s something else.Absolutely none. We clearly treated it seriously enough to pay the top legal people to try and win the appeal.
I suspect it might have more to do with the third part ownership accusations and image right set-up, as that is another area of attack.
I think it's also because there will be confidential legitimate business stuff in there that we don't want our rivals to have sight ofi do understand the clubs reluctance to disclose heaps of material. There is bound to be something that is damaging or is even innocent but that could be spun against us.
Agree with you about disclosing material. UEFA had no credible evidence of wrongdoing and neither do the PL. Why should we allow them to conduct a fishing expedition with our confidential business information? They have done nothing previously that suggests we should trust them. UEFA leaked like a sieve throughout their process and someone is already apparently briefing Javier Tebas on this probe (he is hardly a friend of the PL either)Tolm. Thanks for the reply. I guess the FAs disinterest and response to the hacking (as recently mentioned) and the punishment meted out to Wayne Rooney’s Derby County and others who have sinned against FFP should provide us with some reassurance that even if skeletons do emerge the punishment is likely to be limited. If they want go down the misrepresentation of accounts or accounting practices i foresee a heap of litigation and a lawyers dream.
i do understand the clubs reluctance to disclose heaps of material. There is bound to be something that is damaging or is even innocent but that could be spun against us.
If the Club are worried about the third party ownership with the Dare to Dream etc and worry (say) about another transfer embargo they should get their skates on and get some players signed.