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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%

  • Total voters
    2,063
This never ending saga is all because the club couldn’t keep their IT system secure and allowed a low level hacker access to the entire archive of emails.

Whilst on a football level the club is undeniably well run you have to say that this fundamental lapse in security and the recent ticketing fiasco suggests that operationally it is poor in the extreme. Ordinarily you’d expect heads to roll but that doesn’t seem to be the case so maybe there is a culture of complacency pervading?
Absolute tripe bud.

Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
 
Absolute tripe bud.

Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.

What made him target Man City? If I ever knew I’ve forgotten!
 
Absolute tripe bud.

Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
With respect I’d suggest you are deluding yourself.

There was no encryption of any mails on the server so as far as I’m concerned that is gross negligence on the part of the club.
 
In 2020 City were "fined" for refusing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation into alleged breaches of FFPR. CAS felt that the whole matter could have been settled much more quickly, and without reference to CAS, had the club provided UEFA with the documents requested at the outset. City cooperated fully with CAS and the relevant documents, along with City's accounts, showed there was absolutely no evidence at all of any breaches and proved conclusively that the club had not attempted to disguise owner investment as sponsorship income. These latest judgements mean that City will have to hand over documents to the PL arbitration panel which has the right to "investigate". It is, however, hard to see that there can be any material not considered by the exhaustive CAS proceedings and the judges were clearly irritated by the very slow pace at which the PL investigation was proceeding - this is the significance of his remarks about legitimate interest in the transparency of charges, proceedings and judgements, that the club does not yet even know whether it will face any charges at all and that City have won the title twice in the time the PL has taken NOT to reach a decision. It seems the PL are sitting twiddling their thumbs hoping some new evidence will materialise like a genie out of a bottle of whatever SAF's favourite tipple is.
 
In 2020 City were "fined" for refusing to cooperate with UEFA's investigation into alleged breaches of FFPR. CAS felt that the whole matter could have been settled much more quickly, and without reference to CAS, had the club provided UEFA with the documents requested at the outset. City cooperated fully with CAS and the relevant documents, along with City's accounts, showed there was absolutely no evidence at all of any breaches and proved conclusively that the club had not attempted to disguise owner investment as sponsorship income. These latest judgements mean that City will have to hand over documents to the PL arbitration panel which has the right to "investigate". It is, however, hard to see that there can be any material not considered by the exhaustive CAS proceedings and the judges were clearly irritated by the very slow pace at which the PL investigation was proceeding - this is the significance of his remarks about legitimate interest in the transparency of charges, proceedings and judgements, that the club does not yet even know whether it will face any charges at all and that City have won the title twice in the time the PL has taken NOT to reach a decision. It seems the PL are sitting twiddling their thumbs hoping some new evidence will materialise like a genie out of a bottle of whatever SAF's favourite tipple is.
Excellent summary
 
Absolute tripe bud.

Have you seen what this 'low level hacker' actually had stored on his hard drives? Presuming it was just him, he managed to hack what seems to be the entire Portuguese criminal system including the anti-hacking team themselves.
No doubt Pinto was a professional hacker but City were very complacent. Anyone in business knows that emails are not secure for highly sensitive information. They are not appropriate for confidential business matters. Yet our highly-paid senior Execs saw fit to share tactless jokes about the death of a UEFA official and other private financial discussions.
Sensitive discussions should have all been on a secure encrypted network. This is basic stuff which even the smallest public bodies adhere to. In many other organisations heads would certainly have rolled. It was on a smaller scale but don't forget that Garry Cook lost his job for tasteless email comments about Nedum's mother.
 
Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged. I'm confident the Limitation Act will still apply unless the PL accuse City of deception - even then the bar is high under the recent caselaw.

Thanks projectriver for your time on effort on here. Its much appreciated from people without a legal background.

So as above if we argue that the Limitations Act applies and are successful then any evidence before the summer of 2015 will be excluded from the investigation?

If this is the case then the two and half year delay has been great for out case. So you think that has been our strategy?

Will the procedure will be similar to the UEFA investigation?

PL investigate and decide if charges are merited.
Charge City.
Hearing both side put case before panel..
Decision.
CAS if goes against us.

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