Jack Grealish

[EJC]

United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal have all paid more for a single player than we have so stop being silly

You're being obtuse - I'm paying your club a backhanded compliment. The fee will be over £100 million and no one else in the league can afford that. No need to be so weirdly sensitive about a fact.

 

[mccity]

If your reasoning for Grealish not joining is because he cheats then you are throwing stones from a glass house.

Tbh I suspect that with Grealish, Kane, or anybody really that's obviously super talented that any opposition is mostly just emotional intuition than anything. Then all the reasons such as diving or whatever are just means to justify that feeling.


Also, poor John Stones...

 

[EJC]

You can piss and wind all you like but none of us have any idea and that’s the bottom line.

Well we can be fairly sure he isn't going for what he would have cost last summer as that would be stupid.

 

[mackenzie]

Maybe in the same vein, but Grealish statistically wins more fouls per game than almost everyone, and Silva certainly didn't.

No, but Silva could definitely play on fouls when he wanted to. Could get quite vocal/insistent when he needed to, because he was laying the foundation for the next time....
All I'm saying is that what players at the peak of the game do now. Whether we like it or not.

 

[Petetheblu]

If your reasoning for Grealish not joining is because he cheats then you are throwing stones from a glass house.

Fook me Fants, you couldn't wait to talk about the Glazers could you.....Bloody rag..... :^)

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

You're being obtuse - I'm paying your club a backhanded compliment. The fee will be over £100 million and no one else in the league can afford that. No need to be so weirdly sensitive about a fact.

ofcourse they could. I could see United and Chelsea spending 100m easily. Might be wrong but wasn’t havertz 89m and pogba 90m? - not that far off

 

[FantasyIreland]

Tbh I suspect that with Grealish, Kane, or anybody really that's obviously super talented that any opposition is mostly just emotional intuition than anything. Then all the reasons such as diving or whatever are just means to justify that feeling.


Also, poor John Stones...

I also think some are incredibly blinkered.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fook me Fants, you couldn't wait to talk about the Glazers could you.....Bloody rag..... :^)

Sorry for being a pane.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

He is to Villa. If he isn't worth the same to Man City as he is to us then he stays. Very simple. That's how the transfer market works I think.

I know how the market works thank you. You have a price, City have a price. City will not go above our valuation. That is the stance of the clubs.
For a player it is different. Either he wants to win things or he doesn't. Which category is Jack in? If he wants to win things he leaves Villa behind. Simples.

 

[LongsightM13]

United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal have all paid more for a single player than we have so stop being silly

And united have just done so for the fourth time. But that doesn’t fit the ‘spendthrift oil **** Arabs’ narrative prevalent among the hard of thinking

 

[EJC]

ofcourse they could. I could see United and Chelsea spending 100m easily. Might be wrong but wasn’t havertz 89m and pogba 90m? - not that far off

Havertz was low 70s. Man Utd got cold feet over paying £70 million for Grealish last summer. Chelsea have never approached a £100m fee, nor have Arsenal or Liverpool.

 

[RandomJ]

It isn't about money for us regarding Jack. It is about the ethics and values of modern football. The whole of the football world should speak out on this deal, it is akin to the Super League conception.

Well that's enough VillaTalk for the day. Apparently this goes beyond a football transfer and it's about the "ethics and values of modern football." What a strange bunch.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Isn't it five? Di Maria is always forgotten / ignored. Wasn't that £71m?

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

We haven't spent anywhere near £100m. In fact we're £35m below that so why should we pay £100m now unless the player was really special? By the way, if/when Grealish signs will he suddenly morph into being shit/ not worth it/ a diving cnut?

 

[NickGw2]

Respectfully, you have no idea what you're on about. The way Villa play, he is the main out ball for them. He has to carry them up the pitch because the other midfielders aren't nearly as capable. It's called taking responsibility, he wins fouls in that process and helps Villa catch a breather. And he wins them rightfully.

and unlike our players he actually gets the fouls. The number of times D Silva, Aguero or KDB have been fouled and them not given is frustrating. Maybe now we will have the set pieces we deserve

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

ofcourse they could. I could see United and Chelsea spending 100m easily. Might be wrong but wasn’t havertz 89m and pogba 90m? - not that far off

United spent over £130 million on Poobag (£93 million up front fee, circa £30 million agent fees, plus add-ons, legal fees and taxes).
The media generally describe it as £90 million or thereabouts but the true figure was likely north of £135 million . . . and that was about 5 years ago iirc.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Anyway, better things to do right now than listen to Villa fans on our forum talking shit.

 

[EJC]

I know how the market works thank you. You have a price, City have a price. City will not go above our valuation. That is the stance of the clubs.
For a player it is different. Either he wants to win things or he doesn't. Which category is Jack in? If he wants to win things he leaves Villa behind. Simples.

Lucky contracts exist then; if Villa don't want to sell then he isn't going anywhere no matter how ambitious he is. On that matter, I'd also say it is more ambitious to try and get into the Champions League with Villa and perhaps win an FA Cup than win an inevitable league title with you. Ambition means taking on a challenge, he wouldn't be doing that with you.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Sorry for being a pane.

We can see right through you...

 

[Gumzy97]

The Reddit ITK seems to have got a lot right here’s someone’s reply to the thread


“Nah, the only one he's really got wrong was Alves, and that's hard to blame him for since the contract was ready to be signed and everything. Other than that he's mentioned our interest in players like Jorginho, Sanchez, Pogba, Mbappe, Fabinho and Dembele, but he never said anything beyond us being interested, and even mentioned when we dropped our interest in some of them. With Jorginho and Sanchez it was widely reported that those transfers fell through right at the finish line, and there's little doubt we were genuinely interested in Pogba and Mbappe as well.

Compare that to the list of players he got right, which include Sagna, Mangala, Sterling, De Bruyne, Delph, Otamendi, Stones, Sané, Mahrez and Dias. With some of these he was way ahead of the pack, Otamendi was a real headscratcher since everyone thought he was going to United at the time. He also got some smaller things right, like Lampard's controversial extension, and the Everton game being called off because of COVID cases in the squad.”