Yaya the manager?

I can see Yaya being in the Bobby Manc mould of an arrogant who'll get the job done but will piss people off with it.


Good luck to him of he fancies it. As long as we smash his team out the ground :) It's the only way we'll know.
 
Yaya will be a great manager. In charge of a side, he'll ensure that each player's birthday is celebrated with cake all around. What could be better?
Encourage them to have complete arsehole agents and to tweet derogatory comments insulting the club and undermining the manager? How could it possibly go wrong???
 
Encourage them to have complete arsehole agents and to tweet derogatory comments insulting the club and undermining the manager? How could it possibly go wrong???
I suppose if they all become multi millionaires with CL winners medals like him, they'll all be failures...?
Yaya has made a better living than the lot of us on here... Let's have a think about who made the wiser decisions in work before we criticise him.
 
I suppose if they all become multi millionaires with CL winners medals like him, they'll all be failures...?
Yaya has made a better living than the lot of us on here... Let's have a think about who made the wiser decisions in work before we criticise him.
As a player, he was monstrous, albeit a passenger for much of the last 12-15 months with us. As a man, he left a fair bit to be desired. Was he under a Svengali-type figure in Seluk? Only he can answer that. But he never slapped down Seluk when the latter had one of his regular digs at Pep/the club. Aren't agents supposed to serve their clients, not vice versa.
 
For the debate as to whether Yaya is "smart" because he is multilingual. According to this article, studies in in the 1950s and 1960s were conflicting. The "experts" (I don't know their credentials) in the below article say multilingual people often can process multiple things happening at once easier than a monolingual person. Perhaps, this showed when Yaya was on the pitch?

Moreover, the article states, in the English speaking world being multilingual carries a "wow factor " whilst in many other parts of the world it is merely part of life.

This is just something I found interesting. I don't know if Yaya is intelligent. I've never met him and spoken with him. I know monolingual people who are quite brilliant and multilingual people who are complete rocks and vice versa.

https://learningenglish.voanews.com...an-one-language-smarter-117617108/115171.html
 
As a player, he was monstrous, albeit a passenger for much of the last 12-15 months with us. As a man, he left a fair bit to be desired. Was he under a Svengali-type figure in Seluk? Only he can answer that. But he never slapped down Seluk when the latter had one of his regular digs at Pep/the club. Aren't agents supposed to serve their clients, not vice versa.
Very few, if any of us on here, actually know what Yaya was/is like as a man. It's not for us to judge him on anything but his football skills.
Yaya isn't the only top player to have criticised Pep Guardiola, whether directly or indirectly, and he probably won't be the last. However, he was, I believe, the first to do so on English soil, and the English media made their usual overblown stories about it.
There's no smoke without fire... I suspect there was fault on all sides towards the end of Yaya's time at City.
Ultimately, I doubt very much that Yaya will give two hoots about what a few largely ill-informed football supporters think about him.
 
Very few, if any of us on here, actually know what Yaya was/is like as a man. It's not for us to judge him on anything but his football skills.
Yaya isn't the only top player to have criticised Pep Guardiola, whether directly or indirectly, and he probably won't be the last. However, he was, I believe, the first to do so on English soil, and the English media made their usual overblown stories about it.
There's no smoke without fire... I suspect there was fault on all sides towards the end of Yaya's time at City.
Ultimately, I doubt very much that Yaya will give two hoots about what a few largely ill-informed football supporters think about him.
Fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not going to change your mind,no more than you'll change mine. So be it.
 
I suppose if they all become multi millionaires with CL winners medals like him, they'll all be failures...?
Yaya has made a better living than the lot of us on here... Let's have a think about who made the wiser decisions in work before we criticise him.
What a ridiculous post. I said he was a brilliant footballer but a bit of a knob head. WTF has that got to do with wiser decisions in work??? If I had his footballing skills, I can tell you what, I would have used them, made just as much money and not made a complete arse of myself like he has.
 
There's no smoke without fire...

Still the stupidest saying of all time. Anyone who has ever come across the smoke machine will attest that smoke can exist without fire if you have the right tools to make it artificially. In this analogy a smoke machine is a dickhead agent and his client who has already admitted that he lied about being racially discriminated against by Pep.
 
Still the stupidest saying of all time. Anyone who has ever come across the smoke machine will attest that smoke can exist without fire if you have the right tools to make it artificially. In this analogy a smoke machine is a dickhead agent and his client who has already admitted that he lied about being racially discriminated against by Pep.
I've never mentioned anything about anyone "being racially discriminated against by Pep". You seem to have jumped to that very quickly....

If you think that players never have a problem with Pep Guardiola, then you're living in cloud cuckoo land. "Discrimination" doesn't need to come into it.

Believe it or not, the sun does not shine out of Pep's arse. Like any manager in any job, he's not there to be popular or make friends, and, like every manager who has ever lived, will without doubt have issues of various kinds with more than a few members of staff. It's quite normal.

Leaping to Pep's defence on something that wasn't even mentioned probably says a lot more about you than anything else.
 
I've never mentioned anything about anyone "being racially discriminated against by Pep". You seem to have jumped to that very quickly....

If you think that players never have a problem with Pep Guardiola, then you're living in cloud cuckoo land. "Discrimination" doesn't need to come into it.

Believe it or not, the sun does not shine out of Pep's arse. Like any manager in any job, he's not there to be popular or make friends, and, like every manager who has ever lived, will without doubt have issues of various kinds with more than a few members of staff. It's quite normal.

Leaping to Pep's defence on something that wasn't even mentioned probably says a lot more about you than anything else.

What are you on about? You've clearly got no clue what you're talking about. Yaya Touré publicly accused Pep of discriminating against African players. Later he very publicly withdrew those accusations and apologised. I'm surprised that you don't know that as you seem to be a huge fan of Yaya. Perhaps you blocked it from your memory after you found out that Touré was actually in the wrong, which you seem incapable of considering.
 
What are you on about? You've clearly got no clue what you're talking about. Yaya Touré publicly accused Pep of discriminating against African players. Later he very publicly withdrew those accusations and apologised. I'm surprised that you don't know that as you seem to be a huge fan of Yaya. Perhaps you blocked it from your memory after you found out that Touré was actually in the wrong, which you seem incapable of considering.
I know all about the events you've referred to. I'm just saying that it was you who brought it up. I never mentioned it.
Seems a bit strange that you would pick that isolated incident as representative of Yaya's personality.
You've made yourself look daft. We don't know him personally, so we can't assume to know what he's like.
The one thing I do know almost for sure is that you'd be fawning around him like a hypocritical little child if he ever walked into your front room.
 
I know all about the events you've referred to. I'm just saying that it was you who brought it up. I never mentioned it.
Seems a bit strange that you would pick that isolated incident as representative of Yaya's personality.
You've made yourself look daft. We don't know him personally, so we can't assume to know what he's like.
The one thing I do know almost for sure is that you'd be fawning around him like a hypocritical little child if he ever walked into your front room.

Of course you did. You said there's no smoke without fire. The smoke you're referring to is surely Yaya's claims about his falling out with Pep., it can't be anything else.

Therefore, in the allegory, the "fire" is racism and the "smoke machine" is Yaya/Seluk.

Didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you.
 
At no point did I mention it, and any suggestion that my comment referred to racism is ridiculous.

Tell me what it was about, then. You clearly insinuated that there was fault on both sides of the Pep/Yaya argument, but here's what we know:

Pep didn't play Yaya as much as Yaya wanted. Yaya falsely insinuated that Pep's motivations for this were rooted in racism. Years later, Yaya withdrew these accusations and apologised to Pep.

We have no good reason to believe that Pep did anything wrong, but we have a very good reason to believe that Yaya did because he literally confessed to and apologised for it.

Assuming that both sides must be to blame every time there's an argument is the kind of thing parents do when they're too tired of their kids squabbling to bother finding out what actually happened. Until we have any evidence that Pep actually did anything wrong, we should assume he didn't.
 

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