It's all too easy to assume that women are victims in oppressive religion, but often they are just as much the perpetrators as the men. It's often female relatives, for example, who are the ones who push for FGM. Mothers are just as likely as fathers to say "you're not going out dressed like that." And let's not forget that most surveys suggest that across cultures, women are more religious than men on average. Look at someone like Anne Widdecombe leaving the CofE because they dared to allow female bishops. They are almost always a patriarchal system that favours and gives power to (certain) men, but let's not pretend that women aren't often just as likely to fully participate in it. The fact that you have women and girls choosing to move to ISIS territory shows you that. They weren't dragged there kicking and screaming for the most part.From memory, my understanding is that the punishment described here ('the biter') was often administered by women. Of course, we know very little about what Begum and other women actually got up to during their time when ISIS was more in the ascendant, but this is also something to take into consideratiion.
As I understand it, the adult brain isn't fully formed until about 25. With that in mind, it would be possible to make exactly the same excuse for a 20 year-old, but no-one would do that because of an arbitrary legal distinction at 18.Dave Eagleman's book Incognito (on the manner in which the unconscious brain influences our behaviour without our necessarily realizing as well as the relationship between neuroscience and the law) is also possibly relevant. Although he doesn't discuss the adolescent brain specifically, I would be interested to know more about how the brain of a 15 year old is configured in comparison to that of a fully-fledged adult, and whether this might impact in any way on impulse control and conscious decision-making.
What a strange statement (the second paragraph in case you are wondering)*you're.
Why do the hard right often struggle to spell such simple words?
I think Farage is a massive dickhead......you're one of his supporters.
*you're.
Why do the hard right often struggle to spell such simple words?
I think Farage is a massive dickhead......you're one of his supporters.
I am neither hard right nor far right (although Mrs Mist will tell you I think I am always right) but why would either struggle with simple words ?Hard-right?
Hard is only really a term used for the left.
UKIP, Brexit Party, BNP (and their fanboys) = Far Right
I don't really see what the issue is the British Government aren't about to return citizenship to a security threat,who hates our way of life and it's a hell of a walk from Syria.
I am neither hard right nor far right (although Mrs Mist will tell you I think I am always right) but why would either struggle with simple words ?
I don't. I was agreeing with you. Perhaps it was the way I phrased it.It's not something I said so I'm not sure why you want an explanation from me.
Yes there would be an issue had the Government not complied with international law and if Ms Begum had not inherited Bangladeshi nationality from her parents then the Government may well have been on a sticky wicket. Grey area but our Government haven't made her stateless so in reality she's screwed so to speak. Alas in her case it's hard to feel that sorry for her I'm afraid.The 'issue' is international law and following it.
She could well be a security threat but they have allowed many other probable security threats to return from Syria without being made stateless.
They are making an example of her but it's a dangerous precedent to set.
So she needs to apply for Bangladeshi citizenship, have that rejected and then ask to return to the U.K. to face charges.Yes there would be an issue had the Government not complied with international law and if Ms Begum had not inherited Bangladeshi nationality from her parents then the Government may well have been on a sticky wicket. Grey area but our Government haven't made her stateless so in reality she's screwed so to speak. Alas in her case it's hard to feel that sorry for her I'm afraid.
Possibly you may be right,not sure she has to apply for it though just as you or I wouldn't assuming we were born abroad and our parents were both British we'd inherit British citizenship, just has she has inherited Bangladeshi citizenship.Now if Bangladesh doesn't want sod all to do with her just who's made her stateless us or them.So she needs to apply for Bangladeshi citizenship, have that rejected and then ask to return to the U.K. to face charges.
Then the government will be on their sticky wicket and have to bring her back.
Lots of noise for populist support, but ultimately meaningless.
This sums up their modus operandi to a tee across their whole term.
She doesn’t have it currently. All children born of Bangladeshi parents anywhere have the option to apply for their citizenship, but she has never done so. She is solely British at the moment, well, stateless really.Possibly you may be right,not sure she has to apply for it though just as you or I wouldn't assuming we were born abroad and our parents were both British we'd inherit British citizenship, just has she has inherited Bangladeshi citizenship.Now if Bangladesh doesn't want sod all to do with her just who's made her stateless us or them.
Not to sure that's correct mate under Bangladeshi law any person born to a Bangladeshi automatically inherits citizenship under bloodline law, which lapses when they're 21 and her right to British citizenship was removed prior to that. So it's now a matter of debate for the law as to who's removing her citizenship which wasn't us as we removed her citizenship of this country in "the public good".As she had duel nationality in practice she then became a Bangladeshi citizen.She doesn’t have it currently. All children born of Bangladeshi parents anywhere have the option to apply for their citizenship, but she has never done so. She is solely British at the moment, well, stateless really.
The government spotted a loophole to prolong the situation. Bangladesh have already said that her application for citizenship will be rejected.
I guess she will have to formally apply and get rejected before the government will have to concede that they’ve made a publicity stunt and repatriate her, like countless other people that went to Syria to fight for ISIS.
She never applied for it, so doesn’t have it. It is automatic should they apply.Not to sure that's correct mate under Bangladeshi law any person born to a Bangladeshi automatically inherits citizenship under bloodline law, which lapses when they're 21 and her right to British citizenship was removed prior to that. So it's now a matter of debate for the law as to who's removing her citizenship which wasn't us as we removed her citizenship of this country in "the public good".As she had duel nationality in practice she then became a Bangladeshi citizen.
Again automatically in Bangladeshi law from birth is how the British legal system has viewed it, the supreme court has upheld it. I don't think she'll be tramping our streets in the near future.She never applied for it, so doesn’t have it. It is automatic should they apply.
Until she applies and fails for Bangladeshi citizenship, as I outlined in my first post of this conversation.Again automatically in Bangladeshi law from birth is how the British legal system has viewed it, the supreme court has upheld it. I don't think she'll be tramping our streets in the near future.
Well she's quite cute but Syria's a long way and not many of these long distance affairs work out.Fuck her
No thanks, half of isis already have so I think I will pass on your kind offerFuck her