#47 | Phil Foden - 2021/22 Performances

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BlueindianNewcity said:
City not signing a striker is going to put a lot of responsibility on his young shoulders, at the moment it looks he's the most reliable goal scorer among the forwards.
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Have a look at Fodens Career mate..
His debut at 16 ,in front of 80k people ,other side of the world,his direct opponent that day was Paul Pogba.,older bigger.more experienced.
Phil Foden was man of the match on his debut.
Charity shield winning penalty against Liverpool.at Wembley. Remember? Foden cool as fuck.
Desperately need a goal against psg last season,one of the best teams in the world....step forward young Phil.
Anfield away last season.Foden
Yesterday.Foden.
You don't need to worry about 'responsibility' with Foden
Just let him play Football.
He can play anywhere.
 
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Doesn't need repeating at this point, but he's unfathomably special. If he continues on this trajectory I'm certain he'll end his career as one of the true greats.
 
Loved seeing him question others on the pitch/bench, he is no longer one of the kids or “peps boy” but now a key figure in the team. One of the first names on the team sheet for me.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Have a look at Fodens Career mate..
His debut at 16 ,in front of 80k people ,other side of the world,his direct opponent that day was Paul Pogba.,older bigger.more experienced.
Phil Foden was man of the match on his debut.
Charity shield winning penalty against Liverpool.at Wembley. Remember? Fodenn cool as fuck.
Desperately need a goal against psg last season,one of the best teams in the world....step forward young Phil.
Anfield away last season.Foden
Yesterday.Foden.
You don't need to worry about 'responsibility' with Foden
Just let him play Football.
He can play anywhere.
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Oh, total agreement with your point. I just would have preferred to have someone else who takes the "proven scorer" responsibility and let Foden do his stuff. On the other hand, he could end up scoring a lot of big goals and get himself in conversation for one of the best in the world which he's fully capable of.
 
I wonder if anyone in the media will admit that they got it well and truly wrong regarding Foden, his development and what Pep was doing with him folding him into the team. It was shameful the stick Pep and City got, and even today I saw someone on the comments in The Guardian talking about him being a "benchwarmer".

He has served one of the most intensive apprenticeships in modern football, having played virtually every position across the front five, learned the nuances of positional play, and he is getting better and better each week he plays now. Playing the trigger in the press last week, followed on the left this week, shows that development, it really is something to see. This is why Grealish came to us, and what he has having to learn now. Foden is five years younger.

He's confident enough to give Kev a bollocking when he isn't making the run he should be. Compare and contrast to Sancho, who is another great talent, but already looks limited. Whenever Pep leaves, we'll have him to thank for the next decade for what he's done for Phil.
 
KingRuben said:
Loved seeing him question others on the pitch/bench, he is no longer one of the kids or “peps boy” but now a key figure in the team. One of the first names on the team sheet for me.
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It was the moment where we’d just conceded and he was urging his teammates to calm down. He still looks the boy, but he certainly plays far beyond his years.
 
Not sure if any other blues feel this way, but when we went 1-0 down yesterday I'd usually think "that's us done then" when the game is at Anfield...but with Phil on the pitch I didn't feel that way. I could see he wasn't going to let us lose that game and he yet again called for the ball (which was perfect from Gabby) and finished it brilliantly.
 
i♥city said:
Would love to see Pep rave about him as he did for the likes of Messi and Muller in the past. Pep's post match comment about Foden was a little bit meh for me.
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People are too obsessed with whether Pep says nice things about other players or clubs. Look at Foden's development on the pitch and judge for yourself whether Pep is man managing him in a way that is yielding clear results both for him as an individual player and us as a club. If Pep thinks his job is to keep him grounded because he can still, unbelievably, get better still then fucking fantastic.
 
ooooo he's doing big lad stuff like shouting at team mates and the ref and stuff, oooooh he's getting rather good!!!
 
What is this man's ceiling wow. probably has none. for now needs to stay on the wing he is the most dangerous attacker in our entire team. but against bus parkers he can play in the middle possibly
 
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Brightwell Bros. said:
I wonder if anyone in the media will admit that they got it well and truly wrong regarding Foden, his development and what Pep was doing with him folding him into the team. It was shameful the stick Pep and City got, and even today I saw someone on the comments in The Guardian talking about him being a "benchwarmer".

He has served one of the most intensive apprenticeships in modern football, having played virtually every position across the front five, learned the nuances of positional play, and he is getting better and better each week he plays now. Playing the trigger in the press last week, followed on the left this week, shows that development, it really is something to see. This is why Grealish came to us, and what he has having to learn now. Foden is five years younger.

He's confident enough to give Kev a bollocking when he isn't making the run he should be. Compare and contrast to Sancho, who is another great talent, but already looks limited. Whenever Pep leaves, we'll have him to thank for the next decade for what he's done for Phil.
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Was thinking yesterday - I really do believe he's been groomed to become a big game player. When you think of a young player coming through, you expect starts against relegaton fodder, 30-40 minutes off the bench against midtable teams at home, etc. to ease him in. Phil wasn't getting those sorts of minutes.. fans and media were losing their heads over it... But it's as if Pep knew he could handle those games comfortably; he didn't need to prove that to him, and playing him in those games would've just put too much attention on him at a young age.

So instead... he played him in tougher games where he didn't need to look incredible - he just needed to do well enough for the team to win. As opposed to playing him against a team like Watford, for example, getting everyone excited by some incredible performance, and then throwing him into a massive game where he doesn't play as well, and watching the pressure mount onto him as unrealistic expectations aren't met.

If you go back and look at how he was introduced into the XI.... His first league start was against relegated Cardiff (H) - fine, get the first PL start of the way - and then straight after that? Spurs and Leicester during the final month of the most intense title race in PL history. Then no league starts again until December of the following season - Arsenal away, and then Everton. Then the cup final at Wembley, and the derby at Old Trafford. He didn't start against bottom half opposition until Project Restart, when it was clear that 1.) his inevitabely great performances against those weaker teams could be replicated against better teams, and 2.) David wasn't fully up to it anymore, meaning Phil was actually needed.

I trust him to deliver in the biggest games more than basically any other player we've got, which is incredible for someone his age.
 
lmhblue1 said:
Was thinking yesterday - I really do believe he's been groomed to become a big game player. When you think of a young player coming through, you expect starts against relegaton fodder, 30-40 minutes off the bench against midtable teams at home, etc. to ease him in. Phil wasn't getting those sorts of minutes.. fans and media were losing their heads over it... But it's as if Pep knew he could handle those games comfortably; he didn't need to prove that to him, and playing him in those games would've just put too much attention on him at a young age.

So instead... he played him in tougher games where he didn't need to look incredible - he just needed to do well enough for the team to win. As opposed to playing him against a team like Watford, for example, getting everyone excited by some incredible performance, and then throwing him into a massive game where he doesn't play as well, and watching the pressure mount onto him as unrealistic expectations aren't met.

If you go back and look at how he was introduced into the XI.... His first league start was against relegated Cardiff (H) - fine, get the first PL start of the way - and then straight after that? Spurs and Leicester during the final month of the most intense title race in PL history. Then no league starts again until December of the following season - Arsenal away, and then Everton. Then the cup final at Wembley, and the derby at Old Trafford. He didn't start against bottom half opposition until Project Restart, when it was clear that 1.) his inevitabely great performances against those weaker teams could be replicated against better teams, and 2.) David wasn't fully up to it anymore, meaning Phil was actually needed.

I trust him to deliver in the biggest games more than basically any other player we've got, which is incredible for someone his age.
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Yes, lots of good points here. The last thing he needed was to learn how to get kicked about, because ultimately there isn't that much to learn beyond brushing yourself down and getting up (and I kid you not, some commentators wanted him to go to the Championship to get kicked about). But instead, as you say, how do you manage big games; how do you produce winning performances against the world's best; how do you learn when to apply certain tactics in certain moments of the game; when do you slow it down and when do you go quickly; what solutions do you deploy in the match to unlock certain problems?

Like I indicated in my comment, the most impressive thing for me about Foden against Liverpool and Chelsea is the very, very different role he has played in both. Just the tactical intelligence alongside the raw talent needed to produce good results against two very, very different but excellent sides.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Superb. a great performance.

Needs to stop being so honest though and go down.
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Completely disagree.

There have been a few occasions where I’ve genuinely thought about turning my back on this sport full stop because I’m sick of the diving and injury feigning. I find it utterly fucking pathetic and I can’t stand it.

The good thing is we have a nutter of a goalkeeper who sticks his head in where boots fly, Dias who’s Zabaleta reincarnated in a centre half, Johnny Boulders, Zinchenko, Rodri, Fernandinho, Bernardo and Foden who all always try and stay on their feet. We must be by far the most honest team in football.

Just need to get the others on board now.
 
Every fan likes a player who lives for the big games and Every Fan loves a player with that mentality and Phil's quality.

Hard to really put words on how good this kid is, all I know is that he loves city and I can't wait to see what he does over the next 10+ years.
 
BlueindianNewcity said:
Oh, total agreement with your point. I just would have preferred to have someone else who takes the "proven scorer" responsibility and let Foden do his stuff. On the other hand, he could end up scoring a lot of big goals and get himself in conversation for one of the best in the world which he's fully capable of.
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Fair Comment.
 
MarsLlama said:
No thank you. Currently our best goalscorer, so he needs to stay high up the pitch.
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His ability to turn and stretches defences via either his dribbling or passing range are more important than his ability to finish. That will show over the long run, I’m sure if it. And you generally want those players right in the middle of things where it is most difficult to penetrate. It’s why the first thing Pep did with KDB is bring him into the #8 position.

If we bring in a Haaland or another high quality finisher that ability to open up defences becomes even more important for us.
 
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