Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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jrb said:
The knob on the right holding the rope.

Dark glasses, black hood up, black face mask. Deary me!

Palace fans have now got another set of fans hating them, bar just Brighton.


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Find these palace fans quite boring, they seemed to have watched every documentary on European ultas and become fan boys. They probably have no idea about the subject but think it would be cool to make a banner and wear masks because that's what they would do at st Pauli or some greek team whoose name is to long to mention. Bet they wouldn't have the guts to walk around the streets of James park
 
Banner reported because it is offensive and being investigated by Police?

Do these thin skinned Newcastle fans do Irony?

A bit tasteless and crass (in style) but better than waving fake notes and bragging about winning the European cup in the 1980s.

Everything on that banner was true.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
Banner reported because it is offensive and being investigated by Police?

Do these thin skinned Newcastle fans do Irony?

A bit tasteless and crass (in style) but better than waving fake notes and bragging about winning the European cup in the 1980s.

Everything on that banner was true.
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It’s the hypocrisy that sticks in the craw of most people.

If the boot was on the other foot, and a mega-rich Saudi had invested in Palace, you can bet your bottom dollar there wouldn’t be a squeak of protest at Selhurst.
 
Vienna_70 said:
It’s the hypocrisy that sticks in the craw of most people.

If the boot was on the other foot, and a mega-rich Saudi had invested in Palace, you can bet your bottom dollar there wouldn’t be a squeak of protest at Selhurst.
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Well yeah, but hypocrisy isn't a criminal offence.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the banner. The BBC are reporting it like the figure in the picture is just a stereotypical Arab figure (therefore racist), rather than quite clearly a picture of the crown Prince, who is the chair of PIF. There's not a single thing on the banner that's not a legitimate criticism of him, and it's also a completely fair criticism of the laughable nature of the Premier League's fit and proper person test. Getting the police involved is nothing more than Newcastle fans getting pissy because their club is getting criticised and trying to use the law to silence that criticism.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Well yeah, but hypocrisy isn't a criminal offence.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the banner. The BBC are reporting it like the figure in the picture is just a stereotypical Arab figure (therefore racist), rather than quite clearly a picture of the crown Prince, who is the chair of PIF. There's not a single thing on the banner that's not a legitimate criticism of him, and it's also a completely fair criticism of the laughable nature of the Premier League's fit and proper person test. Getting the police involved is nothing more than Newcastle fans getting pissy because their club is getting criticised and trying to use the law to silence that criticism.
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Remember the Ajax banner when we played there? Racist as fuck no matter how the entitled G14 wankers tried to rationalise and justify it

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What exactly are the police investigating? What a complete load of shite, there's nothing wrong with the banner. I'm assuming they're looking for the stereotype Arab depiction angle but there's a clear likeness to him, I'd say they've gone out of their way to make sure that's clear.

you can agree or disagree with it, like it or hate it or have no opinion on it if you wish but there's nothing criminal about it at all and the fact the police would even have to announce an investigation as to whether or not they can somehow deem it racist is a disgrace. I don't even think they're having a go at Newcastle, I interpret the banner to be a much bigger dig at the Premier league than the Saudis and Newcastle.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Well yeah, but that's because it's just a picture of a generic Arab. It it was clearly a picture of Sheikh Mansour, then it wouldn't be racist.
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Possibly. Whoever made the banner was smarter than most, which makes me think it wasn't the bottom feeders who are holding it. In the context of what is going on, though, the intention is clearly Arab owners bad. The PL and the history clubs aren't helping in keeping it down.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
Presumably that's true but the regulation discussed in the week seemed to be moving to a new definition of related which applied to only two clubs and one specific region.
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A narrow definition like that would be in restraint of trade and could not survive a legal challenge. If the PL move away from IAS definition they will lose all credibility
 
Palace ultras, the most pointless thing i n UK football as the cunts are neither a) ultras or b) taken serious.

On the baner nowt they put on the list is untrue about the saudi government however stand outside the saudi embasy with it as it has got fuck all to do with newcastle and its fans fans as per wrong message in the wrong place
 
Just to stir the pot, Saudi human rights not allowing gay rights in their own country, who are we to tell them right from wrong. I'm all for equal rights in our country but should we get involved in other countries beliefs. It went well in Afghanistan and Iraq being the world police didn't it?
 
Nellies left peg said:
Just to stir the pot, Saudi human rights not allowing gay rights in their own country, who are we to tell them right from wrong. I'm all for equal rights in our country but should we get involved in other countries beliefs. It went well in Afghanistan and Iraq being the world police didn't it?
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And all the other countries that we choose to ignore, Burma (Myanmar) is just one of many where we choose to put our fingers in our ears and go la hlah lay.
Of course a Burmese businessman is not threatening the Rag, dipper domination of the money pot.
 
Nellies left peg said:
Just to stir the pot, Saudi human rights not allowing gay rights in their own country, who are we to tell them right from wrong. I'm all for equal rights in our country but should we get involved in other countries beliefs. It went well in Afghanistan and Iraq being the world police didn't it?
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I'd happily have absolutely nothing to do with them. But you're saying that like they're a country that keeps themselves to themselves, rather than using their vast fortune to spread their intolerant bigotry throughout the world under the guise of religious and educational institutions. They certainly have no problems telling non-Saudi Muslims how they ought to behave. They certainly aren't moral relativists and wouldn't defend themselves on those grounds.

But having said that, it's amazing the number of people who have suddenly come to this realisation since their team's position at the top of the table is under threat.
 
Blue Mist said:
And all the other countries that we choose to ignore, Burma (Myanmar) is just one of many where we choose to put our fingers in our ears and go la hlah lay.
Of course a Burmese businessman is not threatening the Rag, dipper domination of the money pot.
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Tbh I'm enjoying the barcodes being the target of the nonsense. This must be how Chelsea fans felt when we were taken over and all of a sudden no one was asking questions about them anymore.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Will never happen imho, and, even if it did, there would be plenty of companies willing to put 20 million into Newcastle sponsorship in return for a billion dollar contract in Saudi.

This is something the cartel can't win, either legally or in practice.

Our owners are too nice, Saudis will be ruthless, I imagine.
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Agree.
The might of the state will always win when there is big £££ involved and a strong relationship with other governments

Saudis will be far more aggressive than us but we've done well in no small part with our strategy of sharing deals Abu Dhabi are all over directly or indirectly:

China
NYC FC
Nissan
Nexen
Silver Lake
etc etc

Effective state ownership in our case has had big benefits.
 
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Vienna_70 said:
It’s the hypocrisy that sticks in the craw of most people.

If the boot was on the other foot, and a mega-rich Saudi had invested in Palace, you can bet your bottom dollar there wouldn’t be a squeak of protest at Selhurst.
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But can you? You can't use hypotheticals to argue hypocrisy.

Maybe these guys would have felt unease at their club being taken over by an investment fund with the evil MBS as chairman.
 
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