Coronavirus (2021) thread

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inbetween said:
Monitoring so far of symptoms from SA suggests this variant is milder than Delta, no influx of hospitalisations reported.

Early yet but good news, let's hope this is the beginning of the end.
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Based on what I know of biology, the threshold for potency in viruses as far as overwhelming immune systems in humans is concerned is significantly lower than in bats (which have incredible immune systems for dealing with viruses). So in theory you'd hope that now that COVID has moved beyond it's initial 'bat phase' and mutated a few times to primarily human spreading it should tend down towards a far less deadly point eventually.

I'm not expecting anything early, but I think if this variant is milder (even to a minor degree) it would be a huge step in the right direction.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Aye? Calm down. Talking about my personal situation at work, was told through lockdown we’ve worked better from home.
now they want us back in the office despite many like myself explaining why working from home helps my job role as I work through commute hours and outside hours, more contactable and more productive. It’s been proven.
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A noble effort but anyone who has done WFH knows it’s a piss take and never can be as effective as being on site. Not saying some individual’s don’t make it work but the majority take advantage, working through commute hours just doesn’t exist.

The worst culprits at the moment are the Civil Servants and the likes of GP Centre’s. HMRC have issued me with a fine even though I told them my accounts would be late because my (not in the proprietal way) Accountant died suddenly, they just won’t discuss the situation, blaming it on COVID and say “write to us”.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I downed half a bottle of the stuff when I was about 15.

I’ve never touched Couthern Somfort since. Makes me wretch.
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Pernod had the same effect on me, had five of those with Black Current on the Saturday before I started work as a 16 year old on the Monday. Spewed up in my bedroom, my mum made me clean it up as I was still feeling sick. Never touched it since and can still taste that aniseed.
 
So South Africa tells us there’s a new variant.
We panic, reacting swiftly with new measures, Boris thanks South Africa.

South Africa tells us we’re over reacting and in fact it’s highly likely it’s a mild illness and vaccine works tremendously well against it.
We say nowt.
 
Do we play safe? Nobody knows yet but what we do know is that if we fail to act we could end up like last year-being to late. That cost lots of lives. I haven't stopped wearing a mask or doing the other things (hands, face, space anyone) until I know any better I will carry on. Fortunately we are retired and our daughter who we see regularly has been double jabbed and has to have a rapid flow test 3 times a week for her job.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Do we play safe? Nobody knows yet but what we do know is that if we fail to act we could end up like last year-being to late. That cost lots of lives. I haven't stopped wearing a mask or doing the other things (hands, face, space anyone) until I know any better I will carry on. Fortunately we are retired and our daughter who we see regularly has been double jabbed and has to have a rapid flow test 3 times a week for her job.
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As you say, it’s too early to say. I’ve taken to watching/reading the South African media to get a flavour of what it’s like there, and you get two quite different takes. On the one hand, the head of the South African Medical Association reports that yes the virus is spreading quickly but that the symptoms are generally milder, so that gives us something positive. On the other hand, the head of the ICU in Soweto reports that more younger people (20-35) are presenting at her hospital, all unvaccinated, and that they are requiring interventions, so that gives us something negative.

There still isn’t enough data yet to determine which is correct, so I suppose many will just cling to the perspective that fits their mood.
 
i8rags said:
So South Africa tells us there’s a new variant.
We panic, reacting swiftly with new measures, Boris thanks South Africa.

South Africa tells us we’re over reacting and in fact it’s highly likely it’s a mild illness and vaccine works tremendously well against it.
We say nowt.
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South Africa have said Countries red listing them are overreacting because they / we won’t know if it’s a mild or serious illness (with the new variant) for another couple of weeks. So far it’s mainly younger people contracting it who don’t tend to get very ill with the virus;
 
hammocity said:
A noble effort but anyone who has done WFH knows it’s a piss take and never can be as effective as being on site. Not saying some individual’s don’t make it work but the majority take advantage, working through commute hours just doesn’t exist.

The worst culprits at the moment are the Civil Servants and the likes of GP Centre’s. HMRC have issued me with a fine even though I told them my accounts would be late because my (not in the proprietal way) Accountant died suddenly, they just won’t discuss the situation, blaming it on COVID and say “write to us”.
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Well, as I say it works better for my role and the same for others on my desk. We work in shipping, it’s 24/7 - we’re always on call and a lot of our work/emails come in during commute hours - London based so many of us have 2/3 hours commute. That’s time we could already be at home working.
Lockdown proved better for mine and others for the benefit of the company.
Unfortunately we have a few directors at our office who refuse to accept the above and want everyone back in 9-5 , 5 days a week.
 
What a load of bollocks.

So I can go in Asda later, forced to wear a mask, then walk through the concourse full of people, without a mask, then go for a few pints in the local, again without a mask?
 
Gabriel said:
As you say, it’s too early to say. I’ve taken to watching/reading the South African media to get a flavour of what it’s like there, and you get two quite different takes. On the one hand, the head of the South African Medical Association reports that yes the virus is spreading quickly but that the symptoms are generally milder, so that gives us something positive. On the other hand, the head of the ICU in Soweto reports that more younger people (20-35) are presenting at her hospital, all unvaccinated, and that they are requiring interventions, so that gives us something negative.

There still isn’t enough data yet to determine which is correct, so I suppose many will just cling to the perspective that fits their mood.
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They could both be correct.

It could be transmissible to all but only serious for the unvaccinated.

If that’s confirmed then no problem.
 
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