Coronavirus (2021) thread

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If Omicron is more dominant than the rise to 1000 cases I saw reported for the UK today. Not sure of the source. Then it might be worth noting the data I have been posting in the other thread about how as cases rose week to week in Northern Ireland the numbers in the youngest age ranges went up and the numbers in the oldest age groups kept going down. Resulting in a slow fall in the patients in hospital as those mostly catching it WERE the youngest and least likely to be hospitalised. Though higher numbers of them you would still expect to translate into a rise.

If this increase has anything to do with Omicron and it genuinely does impact younger people more and it is milder that is another possible reason beyond the one I assume was the most likely - the boosters mainly given to older people first doing their job well on Delta in the oldest age ranges.

That is still the most likely explanation as it seems Omicron may be here but nowhere near a big factor yet if the numbers over the past week are close to accurate percentage estimates. But it was a very sudden and noticeable change in the split of who was catching it.
 
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We've just been asked to start working from home again.
We were hybrid, 3 days in work, 2 at home, but reverting back to home working again for the foreseeable.
Christmas pub grub tomorrow afternoon and Christmas do on Saturday cancelled.
 
Gabriel said:
I'm not sure we can know that for sure either way, yet.
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If that is still true in the UK by Christmas it might be a different story but I think that is unlikely (deathswill occur with Omicron as Covid triggers underlying issues). It will probably be the new year before we have any degree of real certainty one way or the other as deaths lag by the most of all measures any rise in cases. We will know more about the hospital data first. That we can watch carefully. Why I am posting an update here and full data on the data thread every day.
 
Healdplace said:
If that is still true in the UK by Christmas it might be a different story but I think that is unlikely (deathswill occur with Omicron as Covid triggers underlying issues). It will probably be the new year before we have any degree of real certainty one way or the other as deaths lag by the most of all measures any rise in cases. We will know more about the hospital data first. That we can watch carefully. Why I am posting an update here and full data on the data thread every day.
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I'm speaking globally If you look at the news video I posted from South Africa a few pages back, you'll see the professor describing the death of a young person from Covid recently. However, she doesn't attribute it to any variant.
 
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Gabriel said:
I'm speaking globally If you look at the news video I posted from South Africa a few pages back, you'll see the professor describing the death of a young person from Covid recently. However, she doesn't attribute to any variant.
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Thank you.

We have always had the occasional sad death of someone aged 0 - 19 even in the UK with Delta. But the last one I could find n England was a few weeks ago. Deaths in the 20 - 39 age range here are rare now too. Just 9 in the past week. Compared with 46 in the 40 - 59 age range, 243 aged 60 - 79 and 246 over 80.

The gulf is evident as is the flattening of the gap between 60 - 79 and over 80s which are not infrequently now higher in the younger group than the older.

It is most likely vaccines and boosters have changed these dynamics but the fundamental is everwhere Covid triggers other things that are often why someone dies and the older you are the more likely these exist.
 
I’ve just walked my dog on the field next to the testing centre here in Rammy, I can confirm that it’s the first time in a long while I’ve seen a long queue of maybe 20 people waiting for testing.

Omicron has made it here by looks of things.

p.s. fuck covid.
 
The hospital data from Scotland is dropping like a stone whilst cases are going up. Not sure why. Not saying it is Omicron related but it is certainly a bit puzzling. Patients in a week fallen from 706 to 576 today and on ventilators from 54 to 38. Clocking up 2 - 3 K cases daily.
 
Gabriel said:
I'm not sure we can know that for sure either way, yet.
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Well the WHO have said that they don’t link any deaths to it out of 38 countries where it has been confirmed. South African doctors say there have been no deaths linked to it, barely any needed oxygen and people are staying in hospital for 3 days rather that 8.5 previously.

We can’t count our chickens but other than cases going up quickly, there doesn’t seem to be much more to worry about at this stage.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Well the WHO have said that they don’t link any deaths to it out of 38 countries where it has been confirmed. South African doctors say there have been no deaths linked to it, barely any needed oxygen and people are staying in hospital for 3 days rather that 8.5 previously.

We can’t count our chickens but other than cases going up quickly, there doesn’t seem to be much more to worry about at this stage.
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Experts? Pfft.
 
I am reposting this from the data thread as it is so clear.

The age split in Northern Ireland from the near 13,000 cases over the past week - showing just how many are very young catching it and just how few are in the older more vulnerable groups. The numbers on the right are going down. Those on the left are going up.

Boosters are the most likely cause of this effect but it iswhy hospital numbers are falling in mid winter despite cases at higher levels than a year ago. A very visual proof of the efficacy of the vacines and boosters especialy as these changes were going the other way less than a month ago.


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True_Blue69 said:
Well the WHO have said that they don’t link any deaths to it out of 38 countries where it has been confirmed. South African doctors say there have been no deaths linked to it, barely any needed oxygen and people are staying in hospital for 3 days rather that 8.5 previously.

We can’t count our chickens but other than cases going up quickly, there doesn’t seem to be much more to worry about at this stage.
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I hope you and indeed the WHO are correct. The WHO actually says 'have not linked yet', so it's acknowledging that this might still happen, and the video from South Africa I posted in #42,279 indicates that we (the world) should not be too complacent.
 
Healdplace said:
The hospital data from Scotland is dropping like a stone whilst cases are going up. Not sure why. Not saying it is Omicron related but it is certainly a bit puzzling. Patients in a week fallen from 706 to 576 today and on ventilators from 54 to 38. Clocking up 2 - 3 K cases daily.
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According to my daughter (Consultant Geriatrician), the answer to your question is that antiviral meds are finally delivering.
 
BlueAnorak said:
According to my daughter (Consultant Geriatrician), the answer to your question is that antiviral meds are finally delivering.
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She will be the wrong type of expert within a page or two.

Thanks for your input. I honestly think we are a long way down the road to beating this and we just have to move our politicians from their positions of fear now.
 
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