Coronavirus (2021) thread

[grunge]

The numbers are in DAYS in the SAGE leak I read, not weeks.

Fair play but I was taking about out current state of play to address those people saying we are not in a pandemic anymore. Not referring to any prediction.

 

[BobKowalski]

Didn’t realise this twat was still making a twat of himself.

‘Answer: a new variant is announced when pharmaceutical company share prices dip.’ @jordanbpeterson

And by twat, I obviously mean ‘one of the greatest thinkers of our time’* according to the thread on here some years back. Good times.

* I went with twat.

 

[SWP's back]

this is probably the most idiotic thing I've read in a while.

He’s certainly fairly special.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Here in Scotland, we have applied for emergency funding from the government as it’s expected, businesses will be forced to shut in the coming weeks due to restrictions going much further.

lockdown is coming.

it will only happen if the NHS gets overloaded. And there are not any definite signs that that will happen as yet. Omicron appears to be more contagious but less dangerous.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’ve told you about arguing with @gordondaviesmoustache mate ;)

I’ve fallen out with Spaz.

 

[hilts]

It’s a tad monotonous all this now, mandatory vaccinations and build some hospitals, too many are just ignoring advice anyhow.

 

[SWP's back]

Spanish flu was probably 1917-1921.

These things take years to fizzle out.

1918-20 mate.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

1918-20 mate.

that's excluding the siestas.

 

[SWP's back]

But 7000 out of 67 million (if the figures quoted are accurate) is hardly “prevalent”.

That’s 7,000 in hospital. There’s over 50,000 cases per day. “Prevalent” doesn’t mean “in hospital”.

 

[Manchester33]

At some point you will realise that restrictions beget restrictions, as I told you weeks ago.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you but there is definitely some influence from the sheer number of people who are selfish and don’t do their part (wearing masks, getting vaccinated).

 

[SWP's back]

We didn't have hospital oxygen on tap during Spanish Flu to anything like the current level. Without hospital oxygen, the death ratio from Covid would have been much, much higher

People didn’t die from a lack of oxygen with the Spanish Flu. Most died from a cytokine storm in their body as the immune system was overloaded.

It’s why it killed very quickly and was more lethal in the young and fit. It was a completely different disease in terms of its effects on the body.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Who now have amazing, proven antiviral drugs at hand as well as the vast majority of us vaccinated.

At what point do we get on with life mate?

I know, as I’ve posted previous I’m well over it. Just pointing out why we face an increase in restrictions, we can’t risk our health system collapsing.

 

[SWP's back]

Bollocks how do you work that out? Im fully vaxxed and wear a mask before you call me anti-vaxx. The vaccine doesn’t stop you catching it or passing it on. Everyone I know that has got it recently is double vaxxed.

Because the vaccine reduces the chances of being hospitalised by 90%. If EVERYONE was fully vaccinated then we wouldn’t be seeing 7,000 In Hospital clogging up the NHS, we’d be seeing closer to 700.

The government really don’t give a fuck if you’re diagnosed positive with covid and feel like shit for a week, they’d never consider a lockdown to prevent that. They lockdown because they don’t want hospitals to be overcrowded during their busiest period of the year.

How do people still not get this when we are two years into a pandemic?

Anti-vaxxers are wholly to blame for any new restrictions brought in. Hopefully they’ll be the ones that suffer the most from them (in terms of being unable to attend games/nights out etc etc).

It’s a shame that the NHS has a finite number of beds and that we do have to worry about the staff being overstretched as if everything else was equal, I’d just let the anti-vaxxers deal with the consequences of their own stupidity or refuse them NHS funded treatment for covid. Fuck em would be my advice.

 

[Bluewonder]

That’s 7,000 in hospital. There’s over 50,000 cases per day. “Prevalent” doesn’t mean “in hospital”.

How many cold pandemics and flu pandemics must we have then?

 

[SWP's back]

How many cold pandemics and flu pandemics must we have then?

Several I would imagine going off the precise definition.

 

[Bluewonder]

Several I would imagine going off the precise definition.

I think we're always in a pandemic going off that definition.

 

[Rammy Blue]

NHS app has crashed so can’t update covid pass, lol.

 

[Bill Walker]

The vast majority of the adult population have taken the jab yet here we are staring down the barrel of yet more restrictions and I’ve no doubt, lockdowns to come.

It would've been a lot lot worse without the vaccine. Many lives have been saved.

 

[SWP's back]

I think we're always in a pandemic going off that definition.

I don’t disagree. Going off that definition.

 

[Bluewonder]

I don’t disagree. Going off that definition.

Probably not a very meaningful definition then is it?