M18CTID
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Was 53 and 3023 last Thursday so the downward trend continues30 deaths ad 2672 cases
Was 53 and 3023 last Thursday so the downward trend continues30 deaths ad 2672 cases
Here are figures for each region of England just released showing the % of population aged over 50 who have had at least one vaccination dose.
East of England. 96%
London. 86.7%
Midlands. 95.5%
NE &Yorkshire. 95.7%
North West. 94.9%
South East. 96%
South West. 96.9%
London again being the problem area. Why is this happening as it had been true throughout the vaccination programme and might be a factor in why the variant has taken root there.
Whats the reason why BAME are reluctant ?I can only guess why vaccine take up is lower in London. I would suggest higher concentrations of BAME communities. You are probably looking at close to 50% who are not white British. It was expected that there would be issues with take up among some of these communities. I don't know if this has been reflected in reality.
Looking at the data for Barnet, the wards with the lowest take up are the areas with the highest concentrations of BAME communities, with one of the lowest rates of vaccination being in wards with large Jewish communities (Hendon and Golders Green). I cannot say if this is due to the Jewish communities being less likely to have the jab or other groups who live in these areas.
One of the issues our public health team have found over the last few years is that there is a high number of people, primarily BAME, who are not registered with a doctor. This leads to local A&Es being flooded with people who have minor ailments.
It makes me laugh when friends from back home think places like Oldham and Bolton have high concentrations of BAME residents. It's nowhere near the level of some London boroughs. Newham's BAME population is c75%, while in Oldham it is c25%.
Isn’t the main finding that vacation rates in all regions of the country are high / good?I can only guess why vaccine take up is lower in London. I would suggest higher concentrations of BAME communities. It was expected that there would be issues with take up among some of these communities. I don't know if this has been reflected in reality.
Looking at the data for Barnet, the wards with the lowest take up are the areas with the highest concentrations of BAME communities, with one of the lowest rates of vaccination being in wards with large Jewish communities (Hendon and Golders Green). I cannot say if this is due to the Jewish communities being less likely to have the jab or other groups who live in these areas.
One of the issues our public health team have found over the last few years is that there is a high number of people, primarily BAME, who are not registered with a doctor. This leads to local A&Es being flooded with people who have minor ailments.
It makes me laugh when friends from back home think places like Oldham and Bolton have high concentrations of BAME residents. It's nowhere near the level of some London boroughs. Newham's BAME population is c75%, while in Oldham it is c25%.
Russian rouletteI can only guess why vaccine take up is lower in London. I would suggest higher concentrations of BAME communities. It was expected that there would be issues with take up among some of these communities. I don't know if this has been reflected in reality.
Looking at the data for Barnet, the wards with the lowest take up are the areas with the highest concentrations of BAME communities, with one of the lowest rates of vaccination being in wards with large Jewish communities (Hendon and Golders Green). I cannot say if this is due to the Jewish communities being less likely to have the jab or other groups who live in these areas.
One of the issues our public health team have found over the last few years is that there is a high number of people, primarily BAME, who are not registered with a doctor. This leads to local A&Es being flooded with people who have minor ailments.
It makes me laugh when friends from back home think places like Oldham and Bolton have high concentrations of BAME residents. It's nowhere near the level of some London boroughs. Newham's BAME population is c75%, while in Oldham it is c25%.
Spot on. I assume we know by now whether vaccinations protects against the worst impacts of the South African (and other variants); it would be good to know, but the media clearly have more pressing interests(like admiralty uniforms) than whether we live or die and whether we can resume a normal life.The most important thing is that the vaccines continue to protect us from serious illness against all strains. I think the authtorities must now know whether vaccinated people are susceptible to serious illness by now.
Test and trace absolutely must know the outcomes for those who were infected. I'm hoping the fact that we haven't heard about this means its good news...the vaccines might not be able to prevent infection by the SA variant but hopefully it still protects against its worst effects. if we can keep a lid on things then we should be able to play catch up in the Autumn.
Peoples patience though will wane. We might find that people just start to accept an increased risk because the social cost is too high. Moot point though as we don' even know the risks at the moment. We just have uncertainty.